colder than a witch's tit

[Harrold Wilson Gray]

On Apr 6, 2005, at 8:43 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

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> "Context keeps the inappropriate red light from lighting up."
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> Not these days.  We live in  a veritable cultural red-light district.
> As I've warned before, never say "pirate booty" in front of a class.
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> Never discuss the poem, "The Man with a Hoe."  (And a tip o' the
> Lighter lid to Roz Chast for that gem!)
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> JL
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In religion class, you want to avoid "Balaam, Balaam, why strikest thou
thine ass?" That one was cracking up the kiddies when I was a pre-teen
during The War.

And there was the time when the botany prof showed off to the class the
"big, furry pussies" that she had collected from local willow trees.
Nobody laughed, but everybody looked only at desktops, lest catching
someone else's eye cause a loss of control.

-Wilson Gray

> Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:
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>> The perfectly chaste "boner" in "pull a boner" is from "bonehead
>> play," so far as anybody can tell. HDAS isn't at hand, but my
>> recollection of the time frame for the other "boner" matches yours.
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> "boner" was the first work I recall for "erection", at least in
> colloquial speech, and that would have been maybe 1957 or '58.
> Curiously, though, HDAS doesn't have a cite before Richard Fariña's
> 1966 novel _Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me_, a wonderful
> book, and it's too bad the author crashed out on his motorcycle
> during the publication party, and that Mimi became so sad, but I'm
> sure there are antedates around somewhere.
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>> It should be older, however, since recent unpublished evidence
>> traces the syn. ithyphallic "bone" back to around 1900.
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> Seems likely. [First published cite in HDAS, under _bone_, n., 3a is
> 1916.]
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>> BTW, the student phrase "to bone up on" should soon be heading for
>> the Last Round-Up, because it now sounds weirdly sexual. Who today,
>> with a straight face, could say, "I'm going to bone up on economics"
>> ?
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> I think I could, and others; it doesn't seem that taboo to me, but
> more in the category of "jackass", "cocktail", "baiser la main",
> etc., where the context keeps the inappropriate red light from
> lighting up. "bone" as a transitive verb (or "boner") is one thing,
> "bone up on" is something else, and well-established enough to retain
> its innocence. (YMMV, of course.) More so than with "pull a boner",
> for me, given the relative ease of reinterpretation of the two
> expressions.
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> Larry
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