agenbite of "inwhich"
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Thu Aug 25 15:49:57 UTC 2005
>Had Kunst been writing in a formal, and perhaps somewhat
>old-fashioned, way, he would have written,
>
>1. ...an asset, by which means we'll be able...
>
>But in informal speech, "by which we'll be able" is perfectly fine.
>
>What makes "in which" impossible here is that the context, involving
>"means" or method or whatever one construes an "asset" to be ("in
>which" isn't the only problem here! ), requires the preposition
>"by." See OED, _by_, 30a.
>
>And what makes "in which" an even greater horror is the fact that
>for many unpracticed writers (who often write it as "inwhich") tends
>to replace all other "prep. + which" relative constructions, e.g. :
>
>2. Here's the article inwhich I was telling you.
>
>rather than idiomatic formal
>
>3. Here's the article about which I was telling you.
>
>or the equally idiomatic
>
>4. Here's the article I was telling you about.
>
>The most egregious examples are of the sort
>
>5. Here's the article inwhich I was telling you about,
>
>in which (n.b.) the idiomatic adverb is preserved at the end of the
>clause, but "which" or "that"
>is erroneously replaced by "inwhich."
>
>So far as we know, "inwhich/ in which" most typifies "freshman"
>writing that suffers from numerous other syntactical and other
>errors. It is not a feature of any definable spoken dialect (except
>as defined by "inwhich") and, I believe, was first identified in
>writing rather than in speech. That strongly indicates that
>"inwhich" began as hypercorrection (a mistaken "more formal usage")
>or through a difficulty in constructing a relative clause
>idiomatically. The "inwhich" construction, at least twenty years
>ago, seemed to be far more common in the writing of anglophone
>students educated in U.S. high schools than in that of such students
>educated elsewhere.
How much responsibility for this development should be laid at the
door of the default last clause of The Essay, viz.
"...and make this world a better place in which to live"
?
L
>
>But since, as David's query innocently implies, "inwhich" represents
>The English Of Tomorrow, who am I, really, to stand in the way of
>change ?
>
>Nevertheless, I am right now on my way to space, where no one can
>hear me scream.
>
>JL
>
>
>
>David Bowie <db.list at PMPKN.NET> wrote:
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>From: Jonathan Lighter
>
>> The "inwhich" phenomenon has been commented on frequently, but in my
>> experience it's mainly confined to unpracticed writing of the
>> freshman comp sort and is rarely heard in adult speech.
>
>> But few weeks back Mr. Bob Kunst, who looks to be about 50 and is
>> President of a group called "Hillary Now," responded as follows to a
>> question from Fox News about whether "controversy" might weaken a
>> presidential campaign by Mrs. Clinton :
>
>> "We see any controversy as an asset in which we'll be able to get
>> more people out to vote."
>
>> He meant "by which."
>
>Re: the first paragraph, i've missed all the previous discussion on "in
>which", and as an overeducated nearly-35-year-old, i would simply like
>to say, with utter shock and dread in my voice: You mean there's
>supposed to be a difference between "in which" and "by which"?!?
>
>I mean, yeah, there's a difference in some contexts, sure, but i see the
>two as pretty much absolutely synonymous in Mr. Kunst's line quoted
>above. (That's probably why i never noticed the discussion on it before,
>i suppose--i didn't see anything of interest in it.)
>
>Seriously, i don't see the difference--what's it "supposed"[1] to be? I
>mean, if i were *forced* to draw a distinction, i'd probably have
>guessed that "in which" sounds more formal and therefore i'd expect that
>one to be the usage manual form. This is apparently not the case.
>
>[1] Yep, the scare-quotes were put in on purpose.
>
>--
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