"Keister" etymology (valise=turkey?)

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sat Dec 10 23:21:25 UTC 2005


On 12/9/05, Douglas G. Wilson <douglas at nb.net> wrote:
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> Subject:      Re: "Keister" etymology (valise=turkey?)
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> >Any updates on "keister"?
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> HDAS derives it from German "Kiste", which seems likely enough, although I
> don't know whether alternative derivations (e.g., from the English or
> Scots
> cognate "kist" or from the Irish cognate "ciste") have been thoroughly
> excluded.
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> Here's a spelling variant (from N'archive):
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> _Evening Democrat_ (Warren PA), 27 Nov. 1894: p. "2":
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> <<He [the baggageman] approaches you with a smile, goes away with
> twenty-five cents and ties your bruised and battered kister with a tow
> string.>>
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> -- Doug Wilson
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Then, how is the timbre of the /i/ in "keister" to be explained? That is,
why [kiystr] and not [kIstr]," if the source is German "kiste" [kIst@] or
Irish "ciste" approx. [kISCI] or English or Scots "kist"?
--
-Wilson Gray



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