Antedating of "Guillotine"

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Wed Dec 28 04:25:08 UTC 2005


Was there any testing on animals, before the first human?

Joel

At 12/27/2005 10:33 PM, you wrote:
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>Fred's 1790 quote may not be so unreasonable.  The Larousse _Dictionnaire
>Etymologique_ offers a date of 1790 for both _guillotine_ and
>_guillotiner_ (verb).  The person who pulled the cord was a _guillotineur_
>(1796), but probably earlier.  Strangely, _louisette_ (an earlier
>alternative French name) is not listed in Larousse.
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>Regards,
>David Barnhart
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>American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on Tuesday, December 27,
>2005 at 7:39 PM -0500 wrote:
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> >Poster:       Fred Shapiro <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>
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> >On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Bapopik at AOL.COM wrote:
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> >> 1790? And the first person executed by guillotine was 1792??
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> >Thanks for pointing this out.  The citation I posted, as well as other
> >pre-1792 hits in Eighteenth Century Collections Online, must be
> >misdatings.
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> >Fred Shapiro
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