Somewhat off- topic

[Barnhart]

Dear Hollis,

Perhaps Father Walter would find this interesting.  Apropos of this, when
did the sign of the cross begin.  Isn't that about the most common
religious gesture?

Love,
Dave

American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on Wednesday, February
02, 2005 at 10:30 AM -0500 wrote:
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>Poster:       George Thompson <george.thompson at NYU.EDU>
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>Quite right.
>
>I was at one time quietly proud -- well, mayby noisily proud -- of the
>fact that I was the only person in my circle to have read both this
>book and Charles Darwin's study of the earthworm.
>
>Taylor's book might be interesting to David Barnhart because of the
>range of evidence from history, literature and art that Taylor had to
>gather.  As I recall, he concluded that the nose-thumbing gesture was
>relatively recent, and a pervesion of the military slaute.
>
>Darwin's books would be of interest to all who are interested in
>earthworms and their well-being.  Among other things, he shows that
>earthworms are completely indifferenct to music.  He put a tray of them
>on his piano but got no reaction to whatever he played -- of course,
>they all stood to attention when he played God Save the Queen; but an
>English earthworm could do no less.
>
>GAT
>
>George A. Thompson
>Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern
>Univ. Pr., 1998, but nothing much lately.
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>From: Wilson Gray <wilson.gray at RCN.COM>
>Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2005 10:44 pm
>Subject: Re: Somewhat off- topic
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>> No offense, George, but, as a retired librarian who once nearly
>> had a
>> nervous breakdown trying - eventually, successfully - to locate a
>> number of this serial for a patron, I'd like to add that this
>> periodical is very often cataloged under "Folklore Fellows
>> communications" and not under merely "FF communications," at some of
>> this country's finer libraries.
>>
>> -Wilson
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2005, at 3:54 PM, George Thompson wrote:
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>> > Poster:       George Thompson <george.thompson at NYU.EDU>
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>> > Archer Taylor wrote a history of the nose-thumbing gesture: The
>> > Shanghai Gesture.  Helsinki: Suomalainen Tiedeakatemia (Academia
>> > Scientiarum Fennica) 1956.  76 pp.  FF communications ;  no 166.
>> >
>> > GAT
>> >
>> > George A. Thompson
>> > Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre",
>> Northwestern> Univ. Pr., 1998, but nothing much lately.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Barnhart <barnhart at HIGHLANDS.COM>
>> > Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2005 3:35 pm
>> > Subject: Somewhat off- topic
>> >
>> >> This query is somewhat off-topic of dialect.  Is there a
>> history of
>> >> gestures (e.g. middle-fingering and finger wagging [often
>> >> accompanied by
>> >> tsk-tsking])?  I'm sure the mummy in The Mummy Returns is
>> >> anachronizingwhen he wags his finger at the young boy.  The same
>> >> may be true of Walter
>> >> Eckland (in Father Goose, a movie set in WWII) who is reported
>> to have
>> >> used a gesture of disgust and frustration by the harbour masters
>> >> lackey.
>> >> Regards,
>> >> David
>> >>
>> >> barnhart at highlands.com
>> >>
>> >
>>