"Scuzzcrack" & "Pimpmobile"
Wilson Gray
wilson.gray at RCN.COM
Sun Feb 6 03:12:16 UTC 2005
Oh, please, Jon!;-) Sterile pseudo-slang and fake vulgarities designed
to pass censorship have no legs and are totally devoid of soul. Have
you ever heard anyone seriously use "scuzz[whatever] or even that hoary
old chestnut, "scumbag," in real life? Well, "scumbag," perhaps, in its
other meaning of "safe," i.e. "condom."
Of course, you may very well be completely right.
-Wilson
On Feb 4, 2005, at 9:01 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> "Scumbag" comes close:
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> "Isn't he the scuzzcrack who fired you from Yearbook?"..."You fired
> me, remember? Because you're a scuzzcrack!"
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> JL
> Wilson Gray <wilson.gray at RCN.COM> wrote:
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> What is the meaning of "scuzzcrack"? It's not as obvious as that of
> "pimpmobile."
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> -Wilson
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> On Feb 3, 2005, at 10:26 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>> The possibility that Wilson may be the inglorious Milton who coined
>> "pimpmobile" reminds me that back on Oct. 22 I reported two
>> occurrences of the word "scuzzcrack" on CBS's "Joan of Arcadia" that
>> evening, a word which had not appeared on the Net or anywhere else
>> that I was aware of.
>>
>> Despite its simultaneous reception in millions of American homes,
>> there is still no evidence of wider usage more than 90 days later.
>>
>> So if Wilson set "pimpmobile" afloat in 1963 without the aid of mass
>> media, we reasonably might not expect it to surface till sometime in
>> the mid 22nd century.
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>> A quick Google check uncovers about one quarter million examples of
>> "pimpmobile" on the Web alone. I am sorry to report, therefore, that
>> any claim in favor of Wilson's unique ownership of this word for
>> copyright, trademark, or servicemark purposes is likely to be
>> staunchly contested.
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>> JL
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>> Wilson Gray wrote:
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>> On Feb 3, 2005, at 9:38 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>>> Thanks, Wilson. The military sense must be fairly obscure, since I
>>> just discovered it and it seems to go back to the '50s among Morse
>>> operators. Pretty expressive, though.
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>>> As for "pimpmobile," it seems to have taken a full decade for your
>>> creation to have reached the print media.
>>>
>>> JL
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>> You know what gives me the jaws (there's a bit in HDAS about this use
>> of "jaws"; can't recall at the moment whether it has this particular
>> version) about "pimpmobile"? There's simply no way to find out whether
>> I'm really *the* source. It's such an obvious coinage that any number
>> of other people could have come up with it any number of times. It's
>> even possible that the first person to use the word in print coined it
>> independently. Sigh! No 15 minutes of fame for me.
>>
>> -Wilson
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>>> When I was a teenager in the 'Fifties in St. Louis,
>>> "dittybop(p)er"/diddybop(per)" was a fairly mild insult that meant
>>> something like "wannabe hipster." There was no verb form.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, when I was in The War, I didn't have occasion to come
>>> into contact with any Morse-code operators. More useless information:
>>> when teletypy is heard on a voice channel, it sounds like Morse code
>>> to
>>> the untutored ear. Or at least it did on the equipment available in
>>> the
>>> late '50's.
>>>
>>> -Wilson Gray
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>>> On Feb 1, 2005, at 8:26 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>>>> Have discovered that besides their tedious old meanings, so familiar
>>>> that I needn't bore you with them, these words have been used in the
>>>> military with the senses "high-speed Morse operator" and "high-speed
>>>> Morse receiver/transmitter." To "dittybop" also means "to transmit
>>>> Morse code at high speed."
>>>>
>>>> Can any of my distinguished colleagues and consultants add anything
>>>> to
>>>> the above from personal experience ?
>>>>
>>>> JL
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