The stink/The stank
Dennis R. Preston
preston at MSU.EDU
Fri Jan 21 16:28:53 UTC 2005
I reckon all this is simply the common Southern - South Midlands
modification of /I/ before nasals. Before labial and alveolar nasals
/I/ goes to [E]; before the velar, it goes to [Ey]. There is
important lexical influence; in my speech, for example, this [Ey]
realization is obligatory in 'thing' and 'bring' but not so strong in
'ring' and hardly there at all in 'king.' (Word frequency; order of
acquisition?)
Tin-eared foreigners often her 'bring' and the variant preterite
'brang' as the same, but they ain't. 'Bring' is pronounced '[brEyng]
(by the above rule) and
'brang' is pronounced 'braeyng,' the the following velar nasal
causing the rising diphthongization of /ae/, but the onsets are quite
distinct.
dInIs
>Is the verb really a different word than "stink", not just a different
>pronounciation?
>(I agree that the noun "stank" has a separate meaning from the noun
>"stink")
>
>I've heard "thank" for "think", and back when MTV still played music
>videos, around
>the time of John Cougar Mellencamp's (we called him John Cougar
>Melonhead) "Little
>Pink Houses", the network had a promotion where they gave someone a pink
>house, but
>it had to be painted. I remember clearly Mellencamp saying "Paint thuh
>muther pank."
>
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>> I *do* agree with you. Oh. Now I see your point. The quote
>> from Hank should read "stink." No, maybe I'm still not
>> getting your point. I could say "it stanks," if that fitted
>> in with what the people around me said and I didn't want to
>> draw attention to myself by speaking a different subdialect.
>> But the people around me use "stinks" and so do I. So, in
>> what sense would this be impossible for any other speakers?
>> It's not as though the string -ank- is foreign to English. I
>> once had a chat with an Englishman who was unable to
>> pronounce "Wanda" in isolation so that it could be
>> distinguished from "wander" spoken in isolation. Or do you
>> mean that "it stanks" would be impossible to the extent that,
>> in some sense, no English speaker could say "it rans" or "it
>> stoods" or "it wents"? Then I was right. I *do* agree with you.
>> But, for people speaking a suddialect in which "stink" and
>> "stank" fall together as "stank," "it stanks" would be just
>> ordinary English speech, with nothing special or peculiar
>> about it at all.
>>
>> -Wilson
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2005, at 6:28 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>> > I'd be inclined to agree, except that for many speakers (presumably
>> > Hank Hill is one), the verbal " *It stanks " would be impossible.
>> >
>> > JL
>> >
>> > Wilson Gray <wilson.gray at RCN.COM> wrote:
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>> > About a year ago, I heard the character, Hank Hill, of the animated
>> > cartoon, "King of The Hill," which is set in Texas, say,
>> "You got the
>> > stank on you and everybody can smell it." It's been about
> > sixty years
>> > since I've anyone use this turn of phrase, which means,
>> "everybody can
>> > tell that you're the responsible party, etc."
>> >
>> > Then, on Comedy Central a while ago, on a show called "Country
>> > Comedians" or some such, one person says to another, "Go
>> 'hayid. Put
>> > yo' stank(sic) on it," which, from context, meant, "Put
>> your mark (of
>> > ownership, etc.) on it."
>> >
>> > In both cases, the speakers were white, FWIW.
>> >
>> > So, I was moved to see what Google had to say. It showed that both
>> > spellings, "stink" and "stank," are in use. But, whatever the
>> > spelling, both of the meanings above are rare. In some cases,
>> > "stink/stank" is used to replace "funk" in the sense of "foul,
>> > disgusting odor." In other cases, it's used to mean "the
>> word, the inside dope, the skinny,"
>> > leading to puns like, "The stink on anal glands." In still other
>> > cases, "put the stink/stank on" is used to mean "jinx, foul
>> up," etc.
>> > A closer reading of the data may yield other meanings.
>> >
>> > IMO, there's only one word, "stink," with the spelling following
>> > whichever pronunciation is hip or boss in a given area.
>> >
>> > -Wilson Gray
>> >
>> >
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Dennis R. Preston
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