query for Fred (or anyone else) on movie line

[Laurence Horn]

At 8:45 AM -0700 7/8/05, Arnold M. Zwicky wrote:
>On Jul 8, 2005, at 8:28 AM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>
>>The line, which I just came across in a novel, exists in at least two
>>versions, possibly from two different movies, one of which may
>>originally be Bull Durham, but there may have been some mangling
>>along the way.  This is the basic template:
>>
>>"(And) when you speak of me (and you will (speak of me)), (please)
>>speak kindly/speak well/be kind."
>
>try Tea and Sympathy (1956).  originally in Robert Anderson's play.
>
>at: http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/movie.html?v_id=48750
>-----
>Feeling pity for John and at the same time resenting her own
>husband's boorishness, Deborah offers her own body to the mixed-up
>boy. "When you speak of this in future years...and you will...be
>kind." With this classic closing line, the original stage production
>of Tea and Sympathy came to an end. Fearing censorship interference,
>MGM insisted upon a stupid epilogue, indicating that Deborah Kerr
>deeply regretted her "wrong" behavior. ~ Hal Erickson, All Movie Guide
>-----
Ah, perfect.  Thanks much--that certainly matches my recall:  older
woman, younger (and indeed, orientationally confused) male lover.
I've never actually seen either the play or movie version of Tea and
Sympathy, but I might have seen a clip of this moment at some point.
So that's clearly what Crash Davis was alluding to (he was a
culturally sophisticated type), even if his teammates and/or "Bull
Durham" audiences wouldn't have picked up on the allusion, and he may
or may not have altered the words slightly.

Larry