"No pork on my fork"

Dennis R. Preston preston at MSU.EDU
Tue Jun 21 17:09:40 UTC 2005


And back then I objected to the Chili nomination, countering with
southern Indiana's Gnaw Bone (derived from the French Narbonne).
Still the winner in my opinion since more than pronunciation is
involved.

dInIs

>At 10:52 AM -0400 6/21/05, Beverly Flanigan wrote:
>>Pay-ru (IN), Chi-lee (IN), Lie-ma (OH), Rye-o Grand (OH), . . .  Didn't we
>>cover these a few years ago?
>
>We did indeed, and probably a few years before that.  It's your basic
>comet scenario.
>
>On each of those occasions, I must have nominated my favorite, Chili,
>NY (suburb of Rochester), pronounced [CHAI-lai], as in jai-alai.  And
>of course the Ohioan pronunciation of "Lima" is also found in the
>general pronunciation of the eponymous bean.
>
>Larry
>
>>At 08:51 AM 6/21/2005, you wrote:
>>>Narbonne...
>>>
>>>JL
>>>
>>>"Dennis R. Preston" <preston at MSU.EDU> wrote:
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>>>Ah! Versailles, Madrid, Cairo...
>>>
>>>dInIs
>>>
>>>>I had a friend in grad school who grew up near Arab, Alabama. He
>>>>said it was always pronounced "AY-rab."
>>>>
>>>>JL
>>>>
>>>>Wilson Gray wrote:
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>>>>On Jun 20, 2005, at 4:45 PM, Mullins, Bill wrote:
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>>>>>>  During the Korean-War era, a friend of mine was stationed at
>>>>>>  Redstone Arsenal at Huntsville. According to him, GI's
>>>>>>  referred to the locals as "doo-wahs," because of a feature of
>>>>>>  the local dialect. Instead of saying, "huh? or "what?" or
>>>>>>  even "say what?", the locals said, "_Do_ what?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Thanks to Jerry Springer, I can testify that "do what?" is
>>>>>>  still used in this way, though, unfortunately, I can't say
>>>>>>  where, since the "guests" don't always mention their home
>>>>>>  states or hometowns. To my ear, "do what?" has the same
>>>>>>  intonation pattern as "say what?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -Wilson Gray
>>>>>
>>>>>  I still say "do what?" in the context you mention (reared in Middle
>>>>>  Tennessee).
>>>>>
>>>>>  And that would have been the KO-re-un war . . . (strong emphasis on
>>>>>  the initial syllable)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Needless to say, I don't think that you'll have any problem believing
>>>>that the same people who say "JAY pan" also say "KO rea." ;-)
>>>>
>>>>-Wilson
>>>>
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