strong like ball

[Jonathan Lighter]

Come  to think of  it, my family did not say "guts" either.

JL

Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OHIO.EDU> wrote:
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At 09:56 PM 3/1/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>On Mar 1, 2005, at 7:37 PM, Gordon, Matthew J. wrote:
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>>I heard a new-to-me phrase on the radio: "testicular fortitude" which
>>I took to be a form of "intestinal fortitude" gone south. The context
>>was a local sports program discussing a particular coach. As expected,
>>Google show 11k hits for it (cf. 63k for "intestinal fortitude").
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>>While I'm at it, I'd always thought of "intestinal fortitude" as a
>>humorously formal alternative to "guts."
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>FWIW, I've always thought the same.
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>> Does the evidence suggest it arose as a deliberately funny coinage?
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>I have no idea, but I've always assumed that to be the case from the
>time that I first recall hearing it, ca. 1945-50.
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>> I see OED has a 1945 citation from Edgar Bergen/Charlie McCarthy.
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>>Also, was "guts" seen as vulgar or coarse at some time?
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>AFAIK, no.
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>-Wilson Gray
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>> Today it seems mostly just informal.
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>>-Matt Gordon

I think it was coarse in my family; we gutted fish, and animal guts were
vile. But then, my mother was the type who said, "Don't say pee, say urinate!"


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