Roil/Rile NY Times usage question
Barnhart
barnhart at HIGHLANDS.COM
Thu Mar 3 01:54:17 UTC 2005
roil, v. def. 1 = disturb, unsettle (as waters)
def. 2 = rile; vex
rile, v. def. 1 = vex
def. 2 = roil; disturb, unsettle (of waters)
So in WBD, W11, RHWCD, AHD (no usage note).
Alan Baragona <abaragona at sprynet.com> on Tuesday, March 01, 2005 at 10:33
PM -0500 wrote:
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>FW: NY Times usage questionThis, from a 35 year veteran of the New York =
>Times, supports the speculation that the Times considers "roil" and =
>"rile" lexically separate.
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>Alan Baragona=20
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>People get riled; waters get roiled --- more or less .... Most of the =
>time, at least when i was at the Times, Webster's 3rd was the Bible -- =
>and since Webster had moved on to another edition/s, the copies of the =
>3rd that were on the research desks were mighty fragile ... physically, =
>that is .... and over time, other dictionaries began to show up on the =
>desks also ... and the Times became a little more looseygoosey on such =
>matters ... but essentially the editors (there are a couple who are the =
>assigned specialists in such matters -- Alan Siegal in particular) =
>preferred the 3rd -- at least while i was there ...i've got a copy of =
>the 3rd at home in NYC ... will check it on the next NYC jaunt ... I =
>take it the search you folks did of the times past showed people getting =
>riled and waters getting roiled???
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