orientate (was documentate)
Barnhart
barnhart at HIGHLANDS.COM
Tue Mar 29 01:00:25 UTC 2005
orientate is indeed old--MW11 (1848). Earlier hits in
NewspaperArchive.com are misses.
Regards,
David
barnhart at highlands.com
American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on Monday, March 28,
2005 at 1:06 PM -0500 wrote:
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>At 9:58 AM -0800 3/28/05, FRITZ JUENGLING wrote:
>>I hear orientate all the time--I think there are a lot of people who
>>do not even know 'orient'. Maybe they do and avoid it because of
>>the ethnic connotation.
>>Fritz
>
>Isn't "orientate" more or less standard usage in the U.K.? I seem to
>have heard that claim at some point.
>
>Larry
>
>>
>>>>> langwidge at EROLS.COM 03/26/05 04:42PM >>>
>>>>From a lurker in Baltimore:
>>
>>Are orientate, documentate, conversate, etc. becoming more common?
>>
>>I hear them used more frequently now than I did several years ago.
>>
>>Or perhaps they're actually words???
>>
>>Christine Gray
>>
>>
>>> "conversate" for "converse" (v.)
>>
>>Isn't "conversate" slang? Since I was a teenager, this has been used in
>>the sense of "sweet-talk" v.
>>
>>-Wilson Gray
>>
>>> would be more comparable (20,000 supposed hits by naive Google).
>>> Anyway, many 'errors' or 'nonstandard variants' (of various types),
>>> even
>>> very common ones and even ones which have been in use for a long time,
>>> are
>>> excluded from the dictionaries. Any question of whether or not this is
>>> 'good' I'll leave to R. H. Fiske et al.
>>>
>>> -- Doug Wilson
>>>
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