noviciate

[Laurence Horn]

>Are you sure about the intended meaning, Jon? Shouldn't the reading be
>"virginal novice"? What could "virginal noviciate" or even "virginal
>novitiate" mean?
>
>-Wilson

Maybe it's a metanalysis of "the virginal novice I..."   No, let's
not go there.

Larry

>
>On Mar 29, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>>Actually, OED shows "noviciate" as one spelling since the 1500s ( as
>>in its primary citation).
>>And the word does have a needless history in this sense going back 250
>>years.
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>>But I still think the spelling here is hypercorrectional orthography,
>>or orthographical hypercorrection, as the case may be.
>>
>>JL
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>>Grant Barrett <gbarrett at WORLDNEWYORK.ORG> wrote:
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>>That reminds me of the term "jargonese": the word "jargon" alone must
>>not sound bafflegabby enough to some people. No hits yet on
>>jargonesespeak, though. (FYI, "jargonese" shows up in OED online in a
>>1985 quote from the London Times at "daysack" but does not yet have an
>>entry of its own there.)
>>
>>Grant Barrett
>>gbarrett at worldnewyork.org
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>>On Mar 29, 2005, at 13:58, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>>>Hypercorrectional orthography :
>>>
>>>2002 Michael C. C. Adams _Echoes of War_ (Lexington: U. P. of Ky.) 2
>>>"Luke Skywalker is the virginal noviciate on his first and most pure
>>>knight's quest."
>>>
>>>"Most pure" disimpresses me as well.
>>>
>>>JL
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