Origin of word "redskin"

[Wilson Gray]

On May 26, 2005, at 7:33 AM, Sam Clements wrote:

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> Sorry if someone already posted this.
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> While driving to work Wednesday morning, I caught the NPR segment with
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> Frank Deford talking about sports teams names and American Indians.
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> The thing that Deford said which set off my BS detector was that the =
> origin of the word "redskin" was NOT in relation to the color of the =
> Native American's skin, but rather the scalp that he sometimes took
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> a victim, (with blood dripping?).=20

FWIW, I once read somewhere or other that scalp-taking was inspired by
the European custom of paying/trading for pelts. I've never heard of
Indians taking the scalps of other Indians. This means nothing, of
course.

Further FWIW: the only pronunciation of "Indian" that I've ever heard
in BE is [InIy at n].

-Wilson Gray

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> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3D4665930
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> The OED cites it from 1699, but it isn't clear in that cite to me.
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> the next cite there is from 1823, so leaves a big gap.
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> Anyone done work on this one?
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> Sam Clements
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