Brooklynese in New Orleans redux

[Jonathan Lighter]

To restate and amplify something I said before, there must have been a hell of a lot of those "New York bankers," they must have had a hell of a lot of kids, and the locals must have been pretty desperate to emulate "prestige forms."

JL

Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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On 11/7/05, Benjamin Zimmer wrote:
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> From the New Yorker "Talk of the Town" piece on William Labov and the
> publication of his _Atlas of North American English_:
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> http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/051114ta_talk_seabrook
> You can hear Brooklynese spoken in parts of New Orleans and Cincinnati,
> Labov added, the legacy of the New York bankers who moved to those cities
> in the nineteenth century to finance the cotton trade.
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> I'd prefer a direct quote from Labov about this, as many of the
> paraphrases given in the piece seem a bit suspect.
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> --Ben Zimmer
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In her 1996 book, _Five Smooth Stones_, novelist Ann Fairbairn points out
the presence of forms like "boint" for "burnt" and "pernt" for "point" in
the speech of Southern blacks. My late grandparents also exhibited this sam=
e
phenomenon - or should that be "phenomena"? ;-) - in their speech. I've rea=
d
the history of Harrison County, Texas, of which my birthplace, Marshall, is
the county seat, and there is no mention therein of any great "movement of
peoples" from Brooklyn, New York, to East Texas.

Lest my point escape notice, it is that I don't believe that Labov could
have made any such asinine statement.
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-Wilson Gray


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