From: "Mullins, Bill" <Bill.Mullins at US.ARMY.MIL> >>> I know and hear this saying primarily in a sarcastic sense. Like the TV show cop who has to go undercover to a strip bar; with a leer, he says "it's a dirty job . . . ". Do others see it mostly this way now? <<< "See" ~~ 'understand', no. "See" ~~ 'observe', yes. m a m