-SS -> -ST?

Benjamin Barrett gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM
Sat Dec 2 06:18:05 UTC 2006


:)

Just wanted to make sure it was clear for the record. It seems
unlikely that "chess" /chest./ and "hearse" /hearst/ were borrowed
from BE as the former I've heard only from children and the latter is
so uncommon, though there might be similar reasons for their
derivations. BB


On Dec 1, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:

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> I understand that, Benjamin. I didn't mean to imply that I thought
> that such pronunciations were peculiar to BE. I'm not laboring under
> that "mispreapprehension," to revive a pronunciation considered
> humorous, bsck in radio days. I apologize for not having made myself
> clear.
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> -Wilson
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> On 11/30/06, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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>> Just for the record, the incidents I describe are not within a BE
>> context, and moreover, morphologically specific to this item. BB
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>> On Nov 30, 2006, at 6:04 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>>> My mother says "once-t" and "twice-t," among other words of this
>>> type.
>>> OTOH, she says "fis'' for "fist" and "feis" for "feist." In fact,
>>> this
>>> sort of thing is not at all unusual in BE.
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>>> -Wilson
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>>> On 11/30/06, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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>>>> One more item I remembered last night is hearse -> hearst. My
>>>> sister
>>>> drove a hearse a few years back (as her regular car) and was
>>>> surprised at the number of people who asked her about her "hearst".
>>>> As I recall, it was only her telling me about all the wrong
>>>> pronunciations that prevented me from doing the same.
>>>>
>>>> Benjamin Barrett
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