saving the world

[Scot LaFaive]

I second that motion since, after tuition, I barely have the toll fee to pay
for this email.

Scot LaFaive


>From: Joel Shaver <vole at NETW.COM>
>Reply-To: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>Subject: Re: saving the world
>Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:18:06 +0000
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>Poster:       Joel Shaver <vole at NETW.COM>
>Subject:      Re: saving the world
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>I humbly beg for consideration to be made for the poor student who is
>not a dues-paying member but who is content to listen and learn (aside
>from making the odd clumsy post or two)...  I hope I speak on the behalf
>of more than myself.  Some day, when I grow up, I'll pay my dues! :-)
>
>Joel Shaver
>University of Glasgow
>
>Paul Johnston wrote:
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> > Poster:       Paul Johnston <paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU>
> > Subject:      Re: saving the world
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> > Fine with me, Beverly.
> >
> > Paul
> > On Dec 3, 2006, at 11:47 PM, Beverly Flanigan wrote:
> >
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> >> Poster:       Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at OHIO.EDU>
> >> Subject:      Re: saving the world
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> >> Mr. Zurinskas, would you please stop preaching to us about how we
> >> "should"
> >> speak English?  We're linguists and dialectologists, and we don't take
> >> kindly to prescriptive preaching!   How are dialects "arbitrary"--
> >> do we
> >> just make them up as we go along?  And how do we stop them from
> >> "taking
> >> hold"?  Who ARE these "artificial dialectizers" who misspeak words--
> >> all of
> >> the millions of speakers of English around the world except thee
> >> and me
> >> (and not even me, apparently)?  Anything that doesn't match your
> >> principles
> >> is "not good"?  And "semplence"?  "Egyption"?  "speach"? "pear"?  I'd
> >> suggest you check your own spelling, or are you artificially
> >> changing it to
> >> match your own alphabetic(al) principle?
> >>
> >> I for one am getting tired of this kind of ranting on what was set
> >> up to be
> >> a neutral, objective, real-language-based listserv dedicated to the
> >> principles of the 100-year-old-plus American Dialect Society.  Are you
> >> aware of the ADS and what it stands for?  Are you a member?  Now I'm
> >> ranting!  But instead of ignoring these misguided missives, I'm
> >> going to
> >> renew the call of some years ago that we restrict subscription to this
> >> listserv to those who are paying members of the ADS or who at least
> >> have
> >> serious and unbiased contributions to make.  And I'm willing to let
> >> our
> >> moderators be the judges of that.  Anybody want to join me?
> >>
> >> At 01:07 AM 11/24/2006, you wrote:
> >>
> >>> The alphabetical principle holds that letters stand for sounds.
> >>> We find now
> >>> that even Egyption hieroglyphic symbols stand for sounds, and we
> >>> can speak
> >>> the writings of 5,000 years ago because of this.
> >>>
> >>> Arbitrary dialects destroy this relationship and should they take
> >>> hold
> >>> lessen the consistency of correspondence between letters and
> >>> sounds and make
> >>> English all the harder to read and learn.  Not good.
> >>>
> >>> Let's not be artificial dialectizers by misspeaking words, but rather
> >>> retainers of what semplence of alphabetic principle we have for
> >>> English.
> >>>
> >>> Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+
> >>> See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.
> >>>
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