Gringo

Dennis R. Preston preston at MSU.EDU
Sat Dec 23 19:12:44 UTC 2006


Geoff,

I know the word, but it was not in common use in the early 80's.
Maybe rap culture has brought it back to the fore.

dInIs



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>Dennis wrote:
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>>  When I lived in Hawai'i int he early 80's, locals
>>  had trouble with what to call black folk. "Haole"
>>  meant "white guy" but also meant "non-local," so
>>  "black haole," since no local guys were black,
>>  came to be a resolution.
>Dennis, apparently you didn't move in the right circles.  The Hawaiian
>Creole word for black folk is popolo (stress on penult.).  It shows up
>in various of Frank DeLima's songs for example, and in the
>linguistically sophisticated popular guide to HC 'Pidgin to da Max'
>(disclaimer--the authors were classmates of mine)
>
>http://www.amazon.com/Pidgin-da-Max-Douglas-Simonson/dp/093584841X
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>There's a great song--a kind of potted history of the Islands--called
>'The Greatest Place of All.  It includes a list of ethnonyms at one point:
>
>This is the land of Podagee,
>Koreans, Flips and Haoles and plenny Popolo
>Buddhaheads, Vietnamese, Samoans and Hawaiians give us dignity.
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>There's even a local rapper called the 'Lolo Popolo' (lolo is HC for
>stupid--it's also in the HC word for pot--pakalolo 'stupid weed'
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>Geoff
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