Sloppy Joes (1941) and Sloppy Nachos

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I did some more work on "Sloppy Joe" and "Sloppy Nacho" (my ADS-L post is  
number one for this on Google). There's a 1941 "Sloppy Joe" sandwich cite.
Sloppy Nachos & Sloppy Joes
_Nachos_ (   are a 
well-known snack, but what are Sloppy Nachos? 

“Sloppy Joe” was the  name of a famous bar in Havana, Cuba in the 1920s. 
After Prohibition ended in  the United States, the bar went out of business. 
However, other bars have  recently sprung up around the world using the “Sloppy Joe
” name. 

“Sloppy  Joe” was also the name of a popular sweater, first sold in 1939. 

“Sloppy  Joe” became the name of a sandwich (with meat and sauce that makes 
eating it  somewhat sloppy) by 1941. 

“Sloppy Nachos” are a 1990s variant, borrowed  from the “Sloppy Joe” 
sandwich. Sloppy Nachos are nachos with lots of extras on  them. 

_Wikipedia:  Sloppy Joe_ (  
In the United States, a sloppy joe is a hot sandwich,  typically composed of 
ground beef cooked in a skillet with highly seasoned  tomato sauce or tomato 
paste and spread between two sides of a bun. Commercially  made sauces, such as 
Manwich, are also available. Textured vegetable protein may  be used as a 
vegetarian or vegan substitute for the meat. Sloppy joes are  simpler version of 
a barbeque sandwich which uses shredded beef or pork and  barbecue sauce. A 
sloppy joe that is made from ground turkey instead of ground  beef is also known 
as a sloppy tom.  
The term “sloppy” comes from the fact that eating it as if it were a normal  
sandwich often results in the meat and sauce spilling out. It may also be 
served  “open face”, with the bun halves or slices of bread next to each other 
and the  meat on top of each. A sloppy joe served with no bun at all is known 
as a saucy  beefeater. 

_La Morada (Austin,  TX)_ (  
Sloppy Nachos 
Tostadas topped with beans, taco meat and  our famous chili con queso. 
Jalapenos, onions, tomatoes and lettuce on the side.  

_Austin,  TX - Citysearch_ 
Aussie’s Volleybar and Grill 
306 Barton Springs Rd  
Austin, TX 78704 
(512) 480-0952 
Food options include  self-described sloppy nachos, (tortilla chips topped 
with chili, tomatoes,  chives and jalapenos) and sausage queso with plenty of 

_Sloppy Joe’s (Billmar Resort,  Treasure Island, FL)_ 
Sloppy Nachos 
We use our terrific Sloppy  Joe mix and cheddar jack cheese to accompany our 
homemade tortilla and potato  chips. We then add shredded lettuce, diced 
tomatoes, sour cream and salsa. 7.99  

_Caliente’s California  Style Burrito Shop_ 
Seriously Sloppy Nachos (Chips, cheese sauce, grilled  chicken or steak, 
salsa, sour cream, guacamole, lettuce and chipotle ranch)  

_El Sombrero  (Southington, CT)_ 
Sloppy Nachos $6.25 
Mounds of chips  smothered with tomato, beans, cheese, olives, jalapeños, 
sour cream & salsa  
-with chicken or beef ... $7.25 

_Villa Del Sol Mexican  Restaurants (Northeast)_ 
Mounds of chips smothered with  cheese, beans, olives, jalapenos & sour cream 
31 August 1923, New York Worldpg. 11, col. 1: 
More Havana  Snapshots 
If you have been to Havana and have not visited “Dirty Joe’s,”  on the 
Prado, you have not seen Havana. “Dirty Joe’s” is as much of an  institution as “
Jack’s” or the Hotel Astor bar used to be to Broadwayites and  visitors in 
the good old days. Joe is a Spaniard who probably owes his  appellation to his 
swarthy complexion and is not what it would indicate, for he  is a clean and 
likable fellow with many American friends. His place is a  regular, 
old-fashioned grocery, which is more like a typical country store, with  the dry goods 
left out but wet goods in their place. 

Joe sells either by  the bottle or by the drink anything there is, or has 
been discovered, to tickle  the palate of men. The furnishings of the place are 
about as up-to-date as those  of a Tenth Avenue delicatessen shop, but he gives 
the biggest drink of the best  liquor for the least money—or so it is said by 
visitors—and has a reputation as  a cocktail mixer that extends from New 
Orleans to Demerara. 

When It’s  Cocktail Time in Cuba 
by Basil Woon 
New York: Horace Liveright  
Pg. 43: 
The lucky part came when the Havana city government  some years ago appointed 
a “sanitary commission” to inquire into the cleanliness  of the bodegas.  
The less said about the actual workings of this  commission the better. But it 
happened that “Pop” Roberds, proprietor of the  Havana Evening News, and Joe 
were having a little squabble about this  time over a matter of advertising. “
Pop” (Pg. 44—ed.) thought Joe should  advertise with him, and Joe thought 
differently about it. “Pop,” being an  old-style newspaper man, very properly 
thought himself affronted, and forthwith  wrote an editorial in which he 
suggested to the Sanitary Commission that they  might with profit extend their 
investigations to include “a place on Zuletta  Street which should be called ‘Sloppy’
 Joe’s.” The name caught on almost at  once, and Joe, although privately 
peeved at “Pop,” realized that he had a good  thing. He enlarged his place, and 
at a moment when drinks in Havana were  
costing seventy-five cents apiece (it was just afte r the Volstead Act  
became operative in the United States), suddenly cut the price in half. The  
resultant business forced him to enlarge his place again. 
“Sloppy Joe’s”  became a byword and Joe used the slogan on his saloon sign 
and in his  advertising. Distinguished writers from New York and further afield 
wrote about  the place and money came in so fast that Joe again enlarged. He 
now employs  eleven bartenders. He advertises in The Evening News and “Pop” 
Roberds is  a regular client. The place is big, noisy, has an almost 
exclusively tourist  trade, and is frequented for refreshments after the theater. It has 
little  really Cuban about it and might before the war have been on Third 
Avenue, New  York. 

27 August 1939, Washington Post, pg. S7 ad: as many styles and types as you could name in a month of jam  
sessions! We sketch plain Cuna slip-ons, the elegantly in-elegant “Sloppy Joe” 
 cardigan, novelties that button or pull over. Rainbow of colors...$1.95  

29 May 1941, Mansfield (Ohio) News-Journal, pg. 9, col. 1:  
Rev. D. B. Boller eating “Sloppy Joe” sandwiches. 

10 June 1942,  Mansfield (Ohio) News-Journal, pg 8, col. 1: 
Sloppy Joe Sandwiches.  

2 November 1946, MARION STAR (Marion, Ohio), pg. 17, col. 1, ad: 
The  Coffee Pot 
766 Davids St. 
Sloppy Joe 

September 1948, Merchant Restaurateur (NJ), pg. 12, col. 1:  
REMEMBER the days when a diner was—just a diner?  When you perched up  on a 
hard stool and for a thin dime got a cup of coffee and a hamburger slopped  at 
you by a greasy counter man? And when nice ladies crossed to the other side  
of the street just to avoid the Romeos—and the smells? Sure, you say, you  
remember. In fact you can still think of a few places like that around town. So  
what has that got to do with the price of beef steak? (...) Wait a minute, you  
say. Weren’t we speaking of diners and sloppy Joes a minute ago? 

10  October 1948, Nashua (Iowa) Reporter, “Tricks for Teens” by Nancy 
Pepper,  pg. 6?, col. 4: 
A Sloppy Joe is the new name  for a Dagwood Sandwich? 

14 August 1949, Mansfield (Ohio)  News-Journal, pg. 8, col. 1: 
The refreshment counter where chicken,  sloppy joe and wiener sandwiches, 
homemade pie, coffee and soft drinks will be  sold will be in the school kitchen. 

15 August 1950, Zanesville (Ohio)  Signal, pg. 8, col. 3: 
There are many more eating stands operated by  churches this year. One of the 
newcomers is operated by women of the South  Zanesville Methodist church. 
Their “Sloppy Joe” sandwiches are hard to beat.  
8 March 1951, Marion (Ohio) Star, pg. 31, col. 4: 
At Waldo  Methodist Church, Friday, March 9, starting 5:30 p.m. Home-made 
chicken and  noodle soup, chili soup, chicken, Sloppy-Joe and wiener sandwiches, 
potato  salad, baked beans, fruit and vegetable salad, pie and cake, coffee 
and  chocolate milk.  
22 May 1951, Cochocton (Ohio) Tribune, pg. 5, col. 5: 
Sloppy Joe  sandwiches and coffee will be served. 

7 June 1953, Los Angeles  Times, pg. J14: 
She looked at me curiously. “But, Daddy, that’s just  what we’re having. 
Sloppy Joe hamburgers.” 

5 August 1956, Chicago  Daily Tribune, pg. G25: 
Oriental ‘burgers are distant kin of the  “sloppy joe,” the hamburger 
mixture that comes “loose,” and is spooned into the  bun. 

May 26-June 1, 2004, New York Press, Summer Guide, pg. 124,  col. 1: 
CODY’S BAR & GRILL, 282 Hudson Street (between Spring &  Dominick), 
Sloppy Nachos...5.95 
Tortilla Chips  Topped with Shredded Cheddar, Pepper Jack, Chili, Salsa, 
Guacamole, Sour Cream  & Jalapenos 


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