"Tristan" now feminine given name
FRITZ JUENGLING
juengling_fritz at SALKEIZ.K12.OR.US
Fri Feb 24 00:03:51 UTC 2006
This probably is not [ke:], but rather [kai], which is/was a common name for guys in northern Germany and, apparently, Denmark.
Fritz
>>> alphatwin2002 at YAHOO.COM 2/23/2006 3:55 PM >>>
In Hans C. Andersen's tale THE SNOW QUEEN, Gerda's boyfriend is Kay.
My name is Brenda Kaye. I don't know why my mother attached the E on the latter.
Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM> wrote: Have never thought of "Kerry" as a girl's name. And "Robin Hood" was a guy.
I did have a female student about a quarter of a century ago named "Robyn Hood," which is how they spelled the outlaw's name in Middle English.
Onomastically twisty, if you ask me.
JL
FRITZ JUENGLING wrote:
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We have some friends whose daughters are named Robbie and Dani (sp?). Of course, the tendency to use traditionally boys' names for girls is well known. How often does it go the other way? Examples? I have two brothers-in-law whose names are Robin and Kerry. The former I know has been used as a boy's name for a long time, but even as a kid, I always felt uneasy about a boy being named Robin. Well, I still can't get used to Kerry.
Fritz
>>> alphatwin2002 at YAHOO.COM 2/23/2006 2:53 PM >>>
My friend since high school was named Jim by her father. He wanted a boy, of course.
Wilson Gray wrote: My mother has a woman friend down home in Texas named "Johnnie." Back
in St. Louis, I had a male acquaintance whose first name was "Fay."
"Fay" was also used as a hypochoristic equivalent of "ofay." The poor
guy took a lot of ribbing, given that his ancestral line was probably
black back to Africa.
-Wilson
On 2/23/06, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> You mean to say that by a commodius vicus of recirculation, Allison is again a feminine name. Or still, as the case may be.
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> "Alysoun" is the name of the female lead in the "The Miller'sTale." I've known several female "Allisons." (That was in the last century, however.)
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> And I once knew a female dental hygienist named "Johnnie."
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> JL
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> It's a longstanding trend for parents to give girls names that used to be masculine -- my wife, Allison, was named after her grandfather.
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> A good Web resource that discusses naming trends, rather than just spotting them, is the Baby Name Wizard: http://www.babynamewizard.com/blog/
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> There's an entry on the androgynous trend here (scroll down to the second post -- for some reason the direct link doesn't work): http://www.babynamewizard.com/blog/archive/2005_11_01_nameblog-archive.html
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> It doesn't discuss Tristan itself, but if you plug the name into the site's Java-based NameVoyager, you'll see that it's never been a top-1000 boy's name in the US, hit the girl's list at #819 in the 1970s, shot to #218 in the 1980s, #148 in the 1990s, and was #116 in 2004. That translates to over 800 babies per million born in the US being given the name.
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> James Callan
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