"Tristan" now feminine given name
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Mon Feb 27 21:02:05 UTC 2006
Wasn't "Jack Ruby" originally Jacob Rubinstein or something similar?
-Wilson
On 2/27/06, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> At 10:46 AM -0500 2/25/06, sagehen wrote:
> > >At 11:55 AM -0800 2/24/06, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >>>Except for JFK, I've never known a "John" who was called "Jack." In
> >>>the first class I ever taught I had a "Jack," but that was actually
> >>>his given name. So far as I can recall, I've known only one other
> >>>"Jack" (also his given name), and that was in the '50s.
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> >>> JL
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> >>the linguist Jack Hoeksema is officially Jacob, but perhaps that's a
> >>distinct Dutch pattern of hypocoristic.
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> >>LH
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> > ~~~~~~~~~~~
> >I meant to add to my original note on this that Jack was also frequently
> >the nickname for Jacob. I wasn't as aware of this, growing up in the
> >midwest, as I became later with wider acquaintance with people from both
> >east & west coasts. I was rebuked once, in one of my first fulltime
> jobs,
> >for goyisch insularity for having assumed that a particular Jack, that I
> >and my employer both knew, was "properly" named John.
> >Given that James & Jacob are forms of the same name, you'd think that
> >"Jack" might sometimes be bestowed on Jameses, but I've never run into
> one.
> >Alison
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> It took me a while to figure out that "St. Jacques" (as in the
> eponymous Rue in Paris's Latin Quarter) is in fact St. James.
>
> larry
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