Hazelnuts/Filberts/Cob Nuts

[Wilson Gray]

On 1/26/06, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> Wilson did not note that his quotation is s.v. "cob-nut", which is
> dated from 1580 in OED2;  and that his quote is 1889.
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> Joel
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True, but what does that matter? The question was whether a cob nut
and a hazelnut are the same thing, presumably, for some subset of the
population of the English-speaking world. I personally have never laid
eyes on a hazelnut by any name. I likewise had no idea, till I read
the first post, that there was any connection whatsoever between a
hazelnut and a filbert.

FWIW, I learned by reading the word "filbert" perhaps fifty years
before I ever read "hazelnut."

-Wilson

> At 1/26/2006 04:54 PM, you wrote:
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> > From OED2:
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> >"The Hazel~nut...Its varieties, the Filberts...and the Cob-nuts (vars.
> >grandis, glomerata, crispa)... "
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> >-Wilson
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> >On 1/26/06, FRITZ JUENGLING <juengling_fritz at salkeiz.k12.or.us> wrote:
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> > > Poster:       FRITZ JUENGLING <juengling_fritz at SALKEIZ.K12.OR.US>
> > > Subject:      Hazelnuts/Filberts/Cob Nuts
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> > > I have a colleague who has an orchard  and asked the staff if any
> > of us would like to purchase "Hazelnuts/Filberts/Cob Nuts."
> > > Now, if the pop/soda debate gets people's blood boiling, out here
> > in Oregon the Hazelnut/Filbert divide can lead to warfare. Forget
> > the Hatfields and McCoys.  Being the hazelnut/filbert capital of
> > the world, we take our nuts seriously.
> > > Nevertheless, I'm familiar with hazelnut and filbert, but had
> > never heard or seen 'cob nut.' My buddy said it was a term in use
> > in the early part of the last century, but couldn't give any more
> > info. Has anyone else ever heard 'cob nut'?
> > > Would appreciate any info--even to the negative.
> > > Fritz J
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