Hazelnuts/Filberts/Cob Nuts

[Wilson Gray]

Okay. But you could have done that without specifically stating that
"*Wilson* did not note ..." That made your remark appear personal. I
regret the misunderstanding. Still Friends? :-)

-Wilson

On 1/27/06, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> The original inquirer wrote:
> >My buddy said it was a term in use in the early part of the last
> >century, but couldn't give any more info.
>
> To me, the last century is the 1800s (I haven't moved into the 21st
> century yet), and a citation from 1889 seemed late.  (And I believe
> that if a quotation is cited, its date should be stated also.) So I
> gave some more info.  Including that it was in use well before the
> last century.
>
> Joel
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> At 1/26/2006 06:11 PM, you wrote:
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> >On 1/26/06, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > > Poster:       "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET>
> > > Subject:      Re: Hazelnuts/Filberts/Cob Nuts
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> > > Wilson did not note that his quotation is s.v. "cob-nut", which is
> > > dated from 1580 in OED2;  and that his quote is 1889.
> > >
> > > Joel
> > >
> >
> >True, but what does that matter? The question was whether a cob nut
> >and a hazelnut are the same thing, presumably, for some subset of the
> >population of the English-speaking world. I personally have never laid
> >eyes on a hazelnut by any name. I likewise had no idea, till I read
> >the first post, that there was any connection whatsoever between a
> >hazelnut and a filbert.
> >
> >FWIW, I learned by reading the word "filbert" perhaps fifty years
> >before I ever read "hazelnut."
> >
> >-Wilson
> >
> > > At 1/26/2006 04:54 PM, you wrote:
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> > > > From OED2:
> > > >
> > > >"The Hazel~nut...Its varieties, the Filberts...and the Cob-nuts (vars.
> > > >grandis, glomerata, crispa)... "
> > > >
> > > >-Wilson
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 1/26/06, FRITZ JUENGLING <juengling_fritz at salkeiz.k12.or.us> wrote:
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> > > > > Poster:       FRITZ JUENGLING <juengling_fritz at SALKEIZ.K12.OR.US>
> > > > > Subject:      Hazelnuts/Filberts/Cob Nuts
> > > > >
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> > > > > I have a colleague who has an orchard  and asked the staff if any
> > > > of us would like to purchase "Hazelnuts/Filberts/Cob Nuts."
> > > > > Now, if the pop/soda debate gets people's blood boiling, out here
> > > > in Oregon the Hazelnut/Filbert divide can lead to warfare. Forget
> > > > the Hatfields and McCoys.  Being the hazelnut/filbert capital of
> > > > the world, we take our nuts seriously.
> > > > > Nevertheless, I'm familiar with hazelnut and filbert, but had
> > > > never heard or seen 'cob nut.' My buddy said it was a term in use
> > > > in the early part of the last century, but couldn't give any more
> > > > info. Has anyone else ever heard 'cob nut'?
> > > > > Would appreciate any info--even to the negative.
> > > > > Fritz J
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