"change out a window", "paint out a shelf"

[Sally Donlon]

"Paint out" is, and has been, alive and well in south Louisiana.

"Change out," too.

sally o. donlon




On Jul 20, 2006, at 11:33 PM, Stvan, Laurel S wrote:

> “Change out” seems to work like a phrase that is growing in use
> here in north Texas: “swap out”.  I never encountered “swap” with a
> particle till about two years ago. Now all around me people are
> swapping out the dishes in the dishwasher, or the laundry in the
> washer, or they swap out old carpeting for new, or an old hard
> drive for a new one.  The window change-out seems to share this
> “out with the old, in the new” reading.
>
> “Paint out” is a new one on me, though.
>
> Laurel Smith Stvan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Smith [mailto:jsmithjamessmith at YAHOO.COM]
> Sent: Thu 7/20/2006 10:58
> Subject: Re: "change out a window", "paint out a shelf"
>
> Change out a(n)...  part, piece, component, etc.
> sounds natural to me.
>
> Paint out ...  never heard such an expression.
>
> SLC, UT
>
>
> --- neil <neil at TYPOG.CO.UK> wrote:
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>>> "Cohen, Gerald Leonard" <gcohen at UMR.EDU> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>> A house painter today asked me about the addition
>> of "out" to verbs that
>>> don't seem to need it.
>>>
>>> Sample:
>>> "Do you want these windows painted?"
>>> "No, we're gonna change out these windows."
>>> And:
>>> "We're gonna paint out that shelf."
>>>
>>> He tells me that he's heard these sentences from
>> contractors and adds "I
>>> find that kinda annoying."
>>>
>>> Is this use of "change out" and "paint out" more
>> than a localism?
>>>
>>> Gerald Cohen
>>> (in south central Missouri)
>>>
>>>  <<<<<
>>>
>>> I see your point about the shelf. But "change out"
>> looks like it means
>>> 'replace". "Change these windows" could be used to
>> describe modifications on
>>> the existing windows, and in other contexts the
>> modification interpretation
>>> would be as salient as the replacement
>> interpretation or more so. That gives
>>> good motivation for adding the particle to
>> "change" 'replace'.
>>>
>>> -- Mark A. Mandel
>>> [This text prepared with Dragon
>> NaturallySpeaking.]
>>
>> I always wondered about the addition of 'of' to
>> 'off'.
>>
>> I find 'get something off of someone' grating.
>>
>> I much prefer the simple 'get something off
>> someone'.
>>
>> --Neil Crawford
>>>
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