UP terms

[Beverly Flanigan]

The use of "finlander" is interesting and, I'm sure, authentic.  In my area
of Minnesota, we had an "icelander" dialect and an Icelanders'
church.  Heaven forbid that the Icelanders, Norwegians, Swedes, and Danes
should attend the same (Lutheran) church!

At 01:19 PM 6/5/2006, hpst at earthlink.net wrote:
>I agree and many of the terms are also not finlander in origin.
>
>I was not born when finlander was spoken in the UP but my father remembered
>hearing that dialect in the 1920s and 1930s. I have seen references to it
>here and there mostly there since I no longer remember where I read them.
>It may have been in one of the novels of Robert Traver, a pseudonym of John
>D.Voelcker whose most famous novel was Anatomy of a Murder which was filmed
>in and around Ishpeming.
>
>I never met Johnny as his and my friends called him
>
>A story dad told me once which was probably a legend when he heard it in
>the 1920s was that the finlanders lived on one side of Ishpeming and the
>cousin jacks on the other side and got along alright until on a Saturday
>night someone would get drunk, cross the line and start a riot.
>
>Anyone interested in contemporary UP culture and comedy should look up Da
>Yoopers http://dayoopers.com/.
>
>I first ran across Da Yoopers one day when I was wandering through the
>streets of Ishpeming a few years ago and saw a sign which said something
>like record store and since I always like to look at record stores when I
>am in a town in order to see if they have any recordings by local groups I
>wandered in only to discover that it was not a store but a recording
>company owned by Da Yoopers.
>
>Having never heard finlander spoken I have no idea what it sounded like.
>
>I do know that there was a local tradition which suggested that those who
>did were were looked down upon by those who did speak it as being socially
>inferior.
>
>Page Stephens
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: <RonButters at AOL.COM>
> > To: <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> > Date: 6/5/2006 9:35:55 AM
> > Subject: [ADS-L]Re:       [ADS-L] UP terms
> >
> > An interesting list. Many of these terms and expressions are much more
> > general than just UP, e.g.,
> >
> >
> > BAKERY: Baked goods, rather than a place where things are baked. "Go
>store an
> > get me some bakery, eh?"
> >
> > BIKE RIDING: In Yoopanese, it's not always aufficient to say "biking,"
> > "skiing," or "snowmobiling." Instead, substitute the phrase "bike
>riding," also
> > "snowmachine riding," or even "ski riding."
> >
> > I didn't check DARE for any of the items on the list, but I suspect that
>DARE
> > gives a much better picture on most of them.
> >
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