Card-game names

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Thu Mar 9 15:48:17 UTC 2006


Your note on pronunciation reminds me of something. My grandparents
had a niece whose name was spelled "Marie." My grandfather pronounced
this as "Ma-REE," as you would expect, but my grandmother pronounced
it as "Ma-RYE."

-Wilson

On 3/9/06, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> At 2:57 AM -0500 3/9/06, Meredith Dixon wrote:
> >On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 00:54:45 -0500, you [m a m] wrote:
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> >>Nor I, but I know at least two nicknames in Hearts for the Queen of Spades,
> >>which is the card you least want to get:
> >>         Dirty Dora
> >>         the Black Bitch
> >
> >I know her as the Black Maria.
>
> Ditto, and pronounced /m@ rai @/, as in the way they call the wind.
>
> Incidentally, she isn't *always* the card you least want to
> get--remember the Shooting the Moon option.
>
> (I never heard the game called anything but "Hearts", but the Queen
> of Spades did have other less delicate names than the Black Maria.)
>
> As for Wilson's other queries, I've always heard "Crazy Eights", not
> "Eights", although I'd probably recognize it under either moniker.
>
> larry
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