Card-game names
Joel S. Berson
Berson at ATT.NET
Thu Mar 9 17:55:42 UTC 2006
"Dirty Gertie", of course, is a Stinky Pinky (the word game), and may
have become popular for its rhyming nature.
Joel
At 3/9/2006 12:00 PM, you wrote:
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>I hypothesize *"Dirty Gertie" as a syn. of "Dirty Dora," but Google
>finds nothing. Why the cover-up ?
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> There is a reliable report, though, that "Dirty Gertie" was one
> of Ezra Pound's unappreciative names for Gertrude Stein, perhaps as
> far back as 1924 (J. J. Wilhelm, _Ezra Pound in London and Paris,
> 1908-1925._ [University Park: Penn. State U. P., 1990], p. 263.)
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> A foolish song, "Dirty Gertie from Bizerte," received much
> publicity in 1943.
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> JL
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>Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:
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>At 2:57 AM -0500 3/9/06, Meredith Dixon wrote:
> >On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 00:54:45 -0500, you [m a m] wrote:
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> >>Nor I, but I know at least two nicknames in Hearts for the Queen of Spades,
> >>which is the card you least want to get:
> >> Dirty Dora
> >> the Black Bitch
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> >I know her as the Black Maria.
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>Ditto, and pronounced /m@ rai @/, as in the way they call the wind.
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>Incidentally, she isn't *always* the card you least want to
>get--remember the Shooting the Moon option.
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>(I never heard the game called anything but "Hearts", but the Queen
>of Spades did have other less delicate names than the Black Maria.)
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>As for Wilson's other queries, I've always heard "Crazy Eights", not
>"Eights", although I'd probably recognize it under either moniker.
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>larry
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