"infamous" = celebrated
Beverly Flanigan
flanigan at OHIO.EDU
Tue Mar 14 22:43:16 UTC 2006
FDR? Like, who's FDR?
At 04:44 PM 3/14/2006, you wrote:
>I don't see either the research or the prize described in the article as
>fitting in any way the customary senses of "infamous."
>
> As the OED has it, "1. Of ill fame or repute; famed or notorious for
> badness of any kind; notoriously evil, wicked, or vile; held in infamy or
> public disgrace....
>
> "2. Deserving of infamy; of shameful badness, vileness, or
> abominableness; of a character or quality deserving utter reprobation.
> (One of the strongest adjectives of detestation.)"
>
> Horror Thought of the Day: What do today's teens think FDR means when
> they hear him speak of "a day that will live in infamy" ?
>
> Like, it's gonna be really famous ?
>
> JL
>
>
>"Joel S. Berson" <Berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
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>There is "the famous infamous Tom Bell".
>
>Perhaps the intended notion of the reference to the Ig Nobels was
>"infamous science" (a prize for)?
>
>Joel
>
>At 3/14/2006 09:31 AM, you wrote:
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> >How, ye of little faith, explain ye this ?:
> >
> > "To mark National Science Week, past winners of the most infamous
> > prize in academia are touring the country to explain, among other
> > things, the logic of making locusts watch repeated highlights of
> > Star Wars and how ostriches fancy humans."
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4801670.stm (Today's BBC News.)
> >
> > No, not the bugs and birds; I mean how do you explain "infamous"
> > if not as a synonym for the now soooooo-boring "famous" ? (Earlier
> > discussion addressed the possibility that this "infamous" might
> > only apply to celebrities or media things.)
> >
> > The transformation appears to be complete. Let the Kaos begin !
> >
> > JL
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