Quiz: Chairman or chairwoman?

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Fri Nov 3 13:06:40 UTC 2006


But that would make "werewolf" sexist. Or is it already ?

  Stop me if you've heard this.  Way back in 1974, when pronominal sexism was just becoming a popular issue, I started asking my freshman (better: "freshmen"; best: "freshperson") students whether they personally felt that "he" was a pronoun that excluded or slighted women and girls (correctly "young women"). None of the so-called "boys" (correctly "young men") thought it did, and only two of the so-called "girls."  Both "girls" said - revealingly - that they'd never thought about it, never felt slighted, until female English teachers had told them to feel that way.

  In '77 or '78 I quit asking the question, because the unanimous response - male and female - by then was that, yes, "he" was insufferably sexist.

  Meanwhile, singular "they" is vilified as being plural.


  JL

Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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Let's simply spread the use of the English equivalent of Latin _vir_,
still alive only in "werewolf," as the opposite of "woman," leaving
"man" to mean "human being," as "homo" originally meant in Latin.

-Wilson

On 11/2/06, Troy wrote:
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> Well, as an intern teacher of "first-year composition"
> - I'd say that the "_man" makes "Chairman" non-gender
> neutral for the same reason I can't teach "freshman
> composition" in today's cultural climate.
>
> ...and to be honest - I think there's something to it.
> Of course there is always the "Chairperson" option
> which while decidedly clunky, at least avoids complete
> dehumanization / objectification of the role.
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> > How do we know that "chairman" is gender-specific ?
> > If it is, hasn't it become so only since the
> > introduction of "chairwoman" ?
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> > JL
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> > "Joel S. Berson" wrote:
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> > At 11/2/2006 04:06 PM, Page Stephens wrote:
> > >What do you call an actress these days, a woman
> > actor or simply an actor?
> > >
> > >As far as I can tell the use of a word which
> > denotes the sex of a person is
> > >going out of style and therefore the use of gender
> > specific words denoting
> > >the sex of the person is disappearing..
> > >...
> > >The men got there first ...
> >
> > A short quiz (do NOT consult your local OED, or
> > other historical dictionary).
> >
> > Which came first, chairman or chairwoman?
> >
> > By how many decades?
> >
> > How many centuries later did chair arrive? (For the
> > occupier, not
> > the place he sat.)
> >
> > Which came first, chairwoman or chair?
> >
> > Joel
> >
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