query re "con"
Wilson Gray
hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Thu Nov 9 18:14:45 UTC 2006
I've never seen it spelled "conn," but that's probably due to
happenstance. Perhaps that spelling is influenced by "conning tower."
I haven't read any sea stories in dekkids. I once asked a brother of
mine who was a Naval officer during Vietnam whether he had ever had
occasion to take the con and he became so angry that he couldn't
speak. Apparently, questioning a Naval officer as to whether he has
ever taken the con is beyond insulting.
-Wilson
On 11/9/06, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Bethany, OED offers cites from 1825-1867, but I've seen this word plenty of times in current print, often spelled as "conn," and especially in the phr. "take the con." It seems to be a standard nautical phrase.
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> Oxford relates it not to "control" but to obs. "cond," v. "to steer."
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> Pronounced like "escaped con."
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> JL
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> "Bethany K. Dumas" <dumasb at UTKUX.UTCC.UTK.EDU> wrote:
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> I received a message beginning with this sentence:
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> > Katherine's got the con.
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> (referring to the new Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church - our
> first female PB)
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> I asked what "con" meant in that sentence. The reply was:
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> >As I understand it, it's a nautical term, short for control, what the
> >captain of a ship either has or designates to an exec, etc.
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> My question - is it pronounced "con" as in con man, etc. or as the first
> syllable of "control"?
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> Bethany
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