Hinglish and "innit"

[Tom Zurinskas]

I wonder how the first vowel in "Hinglish" is pronounced; short i, as in
Hindo, or long e, as in English?

Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+
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>From: Paul Johnston <paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU>
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>Subject: Re: Hinglish and "innit"
>Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 10:30:25 -0500
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>"Ai no" is also a Scottish tag (cf. Macafee 1983) w/ a Western
>distribution.  I'd guess it's in Ulster Scots too.  No East Indians
>in Wilkes/Barre but Pennsilfaanisch and Scots/Ulster Scots were
>certainly around in the area in early days.
>
>Paul Johnston
>On Nov 8, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Arnold M. Zwicky wrote:
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> > On Nov 8, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Jesse Sheidlower wrote:
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> >> On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 08:15:48AM -0800, Arnold M. Zwicky wrote:
> >>>
> >>> what are the pronunciations here?  i assume the hindi has [aj], but
> >>> does the american tag have this vowel, or [e]?  if the latter, we
> >>> could consider an etymology involving either "hey" or "hain't".
> >>> does
> >>> DARE (or anyone) have a clue about the source of american "haina"?
> >>
> >> DARE defines it solely by a cross reference to _ainna_, and suggests
> >> a comparison to _huh not_ (which also has only a single quote, from
> >> Pennsylvania).
> >>
> >> The examples I've heard have all been--forgive me for not remembering
> >> how ASCII IPA works--"HEY-nuh".
> >
> > ah, "ainna" gets it close the the pa.-dutch english tag "ai
> > not?" (pronounced with [e]) of my childhood, a variant of the tag
> > "ain't?".  "huh not" is new to me.
> >
> > arnold
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