St. Louis

[Beverly Flanigan]

Wot?  I was at St. Louis University in the '60s (for an English Lit MA
under the revered Fr. Walter Ong), and I never heard it called Saint Louie
U!  The city, on the other hand, was often referred to as Saint Louie,
though mostly by outsiders; and of course the "Saint Louie Blues" were just
that.  (Fr. Ong used to love to talk about where T.S. Eliot was born and
how DeBaliviere Street was pronounced "DaBOLiver.")

Beverly

At 11:00 PM 11/29/2006, you wrote:
>As the old song went, "You came a long way from Saint Louie and, baby,
>you still got a long way to go."
>
>OTOH, some few people say "Sant Louie" and most others say "Saint
>Lewis." "Saint Louie" usually refers to Saint Louis University or to
>Saint Louis University High School.
>
>-Wilson
>
>On 11/29/06, James A. Landau <JJJRLandau at netscape.com> wrote:
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>><quote>
>>  I haven't a clue about the etymology of "gizmo," but I wonder if anyone
>>else (Barry, particularly) has ever encountered it as a food term? In
>>eastern Pensylvania, perhaps in Philadelphia and associated New Jersey,
>>too, a "gizmo" was a sandwich shop item, half hamburger and half ham
>>sandwich -- or maybe I should say whole hamburger and whole ham
>>sandwich, but what I really mean is equal parts hamburger and ham
>>sandwich. I decided after I ate my first and only one, that it was meant
>>for those who couldn't get enough meat or salt from any other sandwich
>>on offer.
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>>OT comment to Jonathan Lighter:  The correct pronunciation is /seint
>>looey/.  /seint loois/ or /seint loo at s/ is an illiteraticism created by
>>monolingual Yankees who were too ignorant to bother to larn French.  At
>>least this illiterati haven't yet changed the pronunciation of the name
>>of my home town to /lewisville/.
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>>    - Jim Landau
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