Tote guts to a bear: Never argue with skunk, mule, cook; Horse-high, bull-strong
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“He ain’t fit to tote guts to a bear”
"He ain’t fit to tote guts to a bear” is a disparagement of a cowboy cook.
The origin of the phrase is uncertain.
3 October 1956, Burlington (NC) Daily Times-News, pg. 7:
One Florida soldier wrote: “Our officers are not fit to tote guts to a bear.”
16 July 192, Valley Morning Star (Harlingen, TX), pg. C6:
Sunday breakfast prepared by the survivors among the apprentices. It should
be noted that those malcontents in our chapter who have said that our caterer
is not fit to tote guts to a bear are unnecessarily unkind.
30 September 1976, Chicago Tribune, “The great chili debate” by Carol
Rasmussen, pg. D1:
As for the cook who makes chili without beans, (H. Allen—ed.) Smith snorts
that it reminds him of an old Texas saying about any range cook whose grub was
consistently miserable—“He ain’t fit to tote guts to a bear.”
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“Only a fool argues with a skunk, a mule, or a cook”
"Only a fool argues with a skunk, a mule, or a cook” is a popular bit of
cowboy wisdom. The origin of the phrase is unclear.
_Harry Oliver’s Desert Rat Scrap Book_
(http://www.klaxo.net/hofc/drsb/t054.htm)
Only a fool argues with a skunk, a mule, or a cook.
(There is no date for this edition of Harry Oliver’s Desert Rat Scrap Book,
but it might be 1949—ed.)
_Google Books_
(http://books.google.com/books?vid=OCLC02548442&id=YQJk3dF8JuIC&q="skunk,+a+mule"&dq="skunk,+a+mule"&ie=ISO-8859-1&pgis=1)
American Cattle Trails 1540-1900
by Garnet M. Brayer and Herbert Oliver Brayer
Bayside, NY: Western Range Cattle Industry Study, in cooperation with the
American Pioneer Trails Association
1952
Pg. ?:
When not in his hearing other members of the crew frequently referred to him
as the “old woman,” but all remembered the range maxim that “only a fool
argues with a skunk, a mule or a cook.”
(JSTOR research database)
Reviewed Work(s):
Come an’ Get It: The Story of the Old Cowboy Cook by Ramon F. Adams, Nick
Eggenhofer
Review author[s]: J. Frank Dobie
Western Folklore, Vol. 12, No. 1 (Jan., 1953), pp. 67-68:
“Only a fool argues with a skunk, a mule, or a cook,” went a range saying.
Mr. Adams treats of the camp cook as belonging to the past.
_Golden Valley County (MT) History_
(http://www.co.golden-valley.mt.us/html/79ranch.html)
Seventy-Nine Ranch*
By Albie Gordon, 1971
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Not all men on the Ranch did their work on horseback. Perhaps the most
important one was the cook and did his work on foot. Sometimes his patience was
worn pretty thin and as one cowhand expressed himself, “Only a fool argues with
a skunk, a mule, or a cook.”
*This is an excerpt from the book “Dawn in Golden Valley,” 1971, compiled
by Albie Gordon, Margaret Lehfeldt, and Mary Morsanny.
3 January 1970, Florence (SC) Morning News, pg. 11:
“Only a fool argues with a skunk, a mule or a cook,” he once said.
(Cowboy artist Charles Russell—ed.)
16 August 1985, Chicago Tribune, pg. D1:
Only a fool argues with a skunk, a mule or the cook.
-- Reader’s Digest.
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“Horse high, bull strong, and pig tight” (qualities of a Texas fence)
A good fence should be “horse high, bull strong, and pig tight.” These
qualities became associated with a Texas fence, but they applied to any fence.
The phrase dates from the 19th century.
19 October 1859, River Falls (WI) Journal, pg. 1:
“A Buncombe fence, Sir, is a fence that is bull strong, horse high and pig
tight.”
1 December 1860, Ohio Cultivator, pg. 360:
...to fence stock out, fences must be horse high, bull strong, and pig
tight;...
15 September 1866, Colman’s Rural World, pg. 276:
Last spring I procured a hook and an axe, and with a hand to help me, laid
about three quarters of a mile down, and now it looks like a lawful fence,
to-wit: “Pig-tight, bull-strong and horse high.”
31 August 1867, Prairie Farmer, pg. 133:
...and lines of beautiful hedges a mile long are not hard to find that are “
horse high, pig tight and bull strong.”
21 January 1912, New York Times, pg. X4:
A Texas Court of Appeals has just rendered a decision defining what is a
legal fence in the Lone Star State. It is that a legal fence must be at least
five feet high and be of such construction that a hog may not go through it.
The requisites for a lawful and sufficient fence laid down by a Virginia
Magistrate many years ago seems to fill the bill better than the judgment of the
Texas court. Without specifying the material of which it was to be
constructed, the requirements were that it should be “horse-high, pig-tight and
bull-strong.” Any fence over which a horse could leap or a pig push through or a
bull break down was not a lawful fence, and the fact that it had been so
surmounted, penetrated, or broken down absolved the owner of the animals that has
accomplished such invasions from blame or liability for loss.
11 June 1978. New York Times, pg. E1:
The house legislation was sponsored by Representative William S. Moorehead,
Democrat of Pennsylvania, who likened it to “a good Texas fence—horse high,
bull strong and pig tight.”
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