~chooldrin

[Wilson Gray]

FWIW, these pronunciations - childrin and chuldrin - as well as
childring, chuldring, chilrin, chulrin, childin, chuldin, chirrin, and
churrin, plus further variants with shwa [I spell "schwa" this way on
purpose. The word is Hebrew. Why transliterate it to look German?] in
the second syllable, are all found in BE. I've never heard the
traditional Negro-dialect chillin / chullun except as used by the late
John Lee Hooker in his blues masterpiece, "Boogie, Chillun."

-Wilson

On 10/18/06, Paul Johnston <paul.johnston at wmich.edu> wrote:
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> Your old enemy, sound change again, in this case, assimilation to the
> slightly lip-rounded qual.  ity of the preceding /tS/ (<ch> and the
> velarity of the dark /l/ following the vowel in question.  This would
> tend to back, and/or round the vowel, simply because we don't
> pronounce sounds in isolation, but as part of a continuous string and
> (regrettably for you, but inevitably) our speech organs cause each
> sound to overlap into the preceding and subsequent sounds.
>
> Paul Johnston

> On Oct 17, 2006, at 10:00 PM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
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> > I've noticed a change in pronunciaiton of "children".  I would
> > assume it to
> > be ~childrin (~ denotes truespel notation).  But I'm hearing
> > everywhere
> > ~chooldrin (where ~ool is as in ~wool).
> >
> > Not that I like it.  I prefer speech to be as close to tradspel
> > (traditional
> > spelling) as possible.  Wandering away from it violates the alphabetic
> > principle.
> >
> > Tom Z
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