~chooldrin

[Paul Johnston]

there's actually more variation among newscasters than you think.
How about someone like Bob Schieffer, then?  Watered down, but still
distinctly Texan.  Dan Rather watered his Houston-area Texan way down
when he was on his own show.  But I remember his appearances on David
Letterman where that shone through too.  And he always pronounced
"spatial" and "special" the same, and was known to say
"Worshington".  Admittedly, there's a lot more homogeneity than most
varied speakers would have.

And no, they don't speak Kalamazooan, quite, despite my students'
opinions.

Paul Johnston
On Oct 18, 2006, at 9:57 PM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:

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> The major dialect of Engish in the world  is general American at
> 73% of
> native speakers. That's the place to start for a standard.  But I
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> assume we are talking "American" here in the ADS>
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> I use m-w.com and American Heritage Talking dictionary for my
> pronunciation
> sources.  Quite standard.  I think national media newscasters use
> quite a
> standard dialect.
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>> It seems to me that a major problem for the concept of devising a
>> system of phonetic spelling for English is that of choosing the
>> dialect to use as its basis. All those speakers who don't have the
>> chosen dialect as their native speech will have a much *harder* time
>> trying to learn to read and to spell. They're first going to have to
>> learn the standard as though it were a foreign language.
>>
>> If this sort of thing was easy or even possible, why haven't any of
>> those countries, such as Germany, that already have a designated
>> standard dialect of their language tried to go phonetic? What's going
>> to be done WRT homonyms?
>>
>> -Wilson
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>> On 10/18/06, RonButters at aol.com <RonButters at aol.com> wrote:
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>>> In a message dated 10/18/06 1:02:13 PM, truespel at HOTMAIL.COM writes:
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>>>> That way we end up with a phonetic language that's
>>>> easy to learn.
>>>>
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>>> Nah, English was a lot easier for me to learn than Spanish,
>>> French, or
>>> Russian.
>>>
>>> And then there are the Chinese, who have no "phonetic principle"
>>> at all,
>> but
>>> they learn Chinese and can readily read each others' writing even
>> though, when
>>> spoken, the dialects are mutually unintelligible.
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