Joke on Liverpudlian speechways

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Sat Oct 28 02:39:13 UTC 2006


FWIW, I now recall that the contest for the title "Upper-Class Twit of
the Year" was a Monty Python bit.

-Wilson

On 10/27/06, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Without committing myself on that question, I'll bet there are speakers who regard "twit" and "twat" as mere variants of one another, vulgar or not.
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>   JL
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> Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> This prime minister who referred to one of his subordinates as a
> "twat," was he, perhaps, an upper-class twit, to coin a phrase?
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> -Wilson
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> On 10/26/06, Chris F Waigl wrote:
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> > Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > > Yeah, flapping ! And "Worral" is a surname in the Liverpool area ! I'm still laughing !
> > >
> > > BTW, are the Brits more (or less) sexist than we are because they so often apply the word "c*** " to pests and fools of either sex ?
> > >
> > This is a discussion I've been having with a number of Brits lately.
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> > My own impression is that the sex-unspecific use of "cunt" is less
> > sexist than applying it to women only. Which is of course a totally
> > unsuitable measure of the respective sexism of Brits and Americans in
> > general. Be that as it may, "cunt" is extremely common here in England,
> > just a few degrees above the equally sex-unspecific "wanker".
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> > But then, I've also met a (sexist) Brit who was genuinely surprised that
> > some might wish to apply "twat" to a woman. For him, this was for men
> > only. (The prime minister is fabled to have called one of his male
> > cabinet ministers a twat. I have it from a good source, but haven't been
> > able to pin down the cite.)
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> > As for flapping, there's lots of it in Irish English, too.
> >
> > Chris
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Everybody says, "How hard it is that we have to die"---a strange
complaint to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
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Whoever has lived long enough to find out what life is knows how deep
a debt of gratitude we owe to Adam, the first great benefactor of our
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