slang/slant
Beverly Flanigan
flanigan at OHIO.EDU
Sat Oct 28 19:28:20 UTC 2006
Well, if it's "uncommon," how can we proclaim it as the "best" one?!? Will
it somehow magically become "common"?
At 03:09 PM 10/28/2006, you wrote:
>>What does this "test" other than the pronunciation of whoever
>>happened to be used to record those words by m-w.com?
>>
>>LH
>
>
>True. I've got no problem with that. So you're saying that the m-w.com
>pronunciation doesn't sound right to you? Sounds right to me.
>
>Perhaps the person that wrote the phonetic description is describing an
>uncommon dialect.
>
>
>Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL4+
>See truespel.com and the 4 truespel books at authorhouse.com.
>
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>>At 3:43 PM +0000 10/28/06, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>> >For "slang" you say "sl&N?" Strange notation.
>> >
>> >M-w.com foespelz (phonetically/phonemically spells) "fun" as "f&n", so in
>> >that notation you would be saying "slung" for "slang". No one says that.
>>
>>If you checked out the earlier posts (just yesterday, I believe)
>>about the ASCII representation of IPA, you'd have seen that & is used
>>in that system not for a schwa (or "caret") but for the low front
>>vowel for which the IPA symbol is the digraph corresponding to [ae].
>>Lots of ones say that for "slang", or at least something closer to
>>the lax vowel of "slant" than the tense vowel of "saint", including
>>many northeasterners like me.
>>
>> >But you don't seem to be takingt his seriously ("the hell with it").
>>I've
>> >focused on it to get it right because of my phoneme analysis books.
>> >
>> >These things can be tested. One can play the m-w.com spoken words for
>> >"dangle, danger, dants" which one has the different "a" vowel sound. I
>> >hear "dance" with a short vowel and the others with a long vowel. Thus
>>the
>> >notation for "dangle" should be long a.
>>
>>What does this "test" other than the pronunciation of whoever
>>happened to be used to record those words by m-w.com?
>>
>>LH
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