Knowing one's ass from one's elbow
Mark A. Mandel
mamandel at LDC.UPENN.EDU
Sat Oct 28 23:02:36 UTC 2006
Re: slang/slant, "Paul A Johnston, Jr." <paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU> replies to
Tom Zurinskas:
>>>
And you've just come out with a regionalism--and one that is NOT
traditional in American dictionaries. My students will love you for it,
though.
<<<
Re: Can some native USA English speakers say "awe" or not, Wilson sez:
>>>
I may be out of step with the rest of mankind, but my own experience
is that a merger can not be automatically undone just because you feel
like it.
<<<
Re: slang/slant, Bev asks:
>>>
If you "find it very hard to say 'slang' with a short a" (IPA /ae/), why do
you insist that m-w's notation "should be short a"? Since dictionaries
purport to represent "real" pronunciation, isn't your argument quite
illogical?
<<<
Given Mr. Zurinskas's record of analyzing what he hears (e.g., on m-w.com)
quite differently from any of us here who have had training in phonetics, I
wouldn't trust his report of this purported new-found regionalism without at
least hearing a recording.
Is it not plain by now that Mr. Zurinskas Knows The Truth and nothing we say
will penetrate his impervious shield? See my previous post and compare.
(BTW, listening to m-w.com's pronunciation of "slang" led me to their
definition:
1 : language peculiar to a particular group: as a : ARGOT b : JARGON 2
2 : an informal nonstandard vocabulary composed typically of coinages,
arbitrarily changed words, and extravagant, forced, or facetious figures of
speech
My!)
m a m
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