another orphan

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Mon Sep 11 14:16:27 UTC 2006


As I've mentioned before, segregation  worked. In those days, I didn't
have sufficient conversation with "The Other Group" for me to be
certain of its usage.

It used to be the case that Southern California referred to itself as
"The Southland." Is that out of date,

-Wilson

On 9/10/06, Arnold M. Zwicky <zwicky at csli.stanford.edu> wrote:
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> On Sep 10, 2006, at 6:17 AM, Larry Horn wrote:
>
> > At 1:28 AM -0400 9/10/06, Wilson Gray wrote:
> >> And there are originally-local orphans, such as UCLA and SC.
> >
> > Do these really count as orphans?  They do still unpack in the
> > original ways, after all.
>
> they are not orphans.  they're just very widely used abbreviations,
> appreciated as such by those who use them, and not disavowed by the
> institutions in question.
> >
> >> The use
> >> of "SC" instead of "USC" for the University of Southern California
> >> may
> >> be peculiar to BE.
> >
> > From my L.A. days, I'm pretty sure no such restriction exists.  "He
> > goes to SC", as I recall, was (and I assume still is, in L.A.) pretty
> > standard usage.
>
> in my experience, yes.
>
> >   Note that this can only standard for the *University
> > of* Southern California; you never (I venture to guess) get "SC" to
> > refer to "southern California" tout court ("The Democrats held the
> > northern part of the state, but SC went Republican"--naaah).
>
> right.  that would be SoCal, but never SC.
>
> >> I almost cried when I discovered that the A&P was originally the
> >> "Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company."
>
> ah, a bit of lost poetry.  but the "Tea" part is really way too
> limiting.
>
> arnold, in NoCal (a.k.a. NorCal)
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