"Texas Gold" tea; Wikipedia really sucks

Mullins, Bill AMRDEC Bill.Mullins at US.ARMY.MIL
Fri Sep 15 20:38:11 UTC 2006


Why not go into Wikipedia and change it to suit yourself?

Light candle, curse darkness, etc., etc.

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> WIKIPEDIA REALLY SUCKS
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> I'm back from Texas and I decided to look at the Wikipedia
> "Big Apple" entry again. As usual, it changed. For one thing,
> the photo of the apple is gone.
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> Some Wiki user named "Peter Salwen" appears to have put a
> "Big Apple" link to Peter Salwen's website above all else.
> ...
> Remember that useless 1940s "Swing Street" information that
> has nothing to do with "the Big Apple" (cited from the
> 1920s)? Remember when we took it off? The same wiki user
> appears to have put the same useless information at the
> bottom of the entry.
> ...
> A link to the scholarly site "Indonesia Destinations" has
> been added. Why this site? Well, it gives the Peter Salwen
> "whore theory" THAT EVEN SALWEN HAS LONG SINCE REMOVED FROM THE WEB!
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> Really, I should have killed myself years ago. I realize that
> I must accept no money, no awards, and constant pain my whole
> life. Wonderful.
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Apple
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> Big Apple
> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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> For other uses, see Big Apple (disambiguation) The "Big
> Apple" is a nickname or alternate toponym for New York City
> and Buenos Aires, Argentina. Its popularity since the 1970s
> is due to a promotional campaign by the New York Convention
> and Visitor's Bureau. Its earlier origins are less clear.
> One explanation cited by the New-York Historical Society and
> others is that it was first popularized by John Fitzgerald,
> who first used it in his horse racing column in the New York
> Morning Telegraph in 1921, then further explaining its
> origins in his February 18, 1924 column. Fitzgerald credited
> African-American stable-hands working at horseracing tracks
> in New Orleans:
> The Big Apple. The dream of every lad that ever threw a leg
> over a thoroughbred and the goal of all horsemen. There's
> only one Big Apple. That's New York.
> Two dusky stable hands were leading a pair of thoroughbred
> around the "cooling rings" of adjoining stables at the Fair
> Grounds in New Orleans and engaging in desultory conversation.
> "Where y'all goin' from here?" queried one.
> "From here we're headin' for The Big Apple", proudly replied
> the other.
> "Well, you'd better fatten up them skinners or all you'll get
> from the apple will be the core", was the quick rejoinder.
>
> In the 1920s the New York race tracks were the cream of the
> crop, so going to the New York races was a big treat, the
> prize, allegorically a Big Apple.
> In 1997, as part of an official designation of "Big Apple
> Corner" in Manhattan, former Mayor Rudy Giuliani summarizes
> the rest of the story:
> A decade later many jazz musicians began calling the City
> "The Big Apple" to refer to New York City (especially Harlem)
> as the jazz capital of the world. Soon the nickname became
> synonymous with New York City and its cultural diversity. In
> the early 1970s the name played an important role in reviving
> New York's tourist economy through a campaign led by the New
> York Convention and Visitors Bureau. Today the nickname "The
> Big Apple," which replaced "Fun City," is the international
> description of the city and is synonymous with the cultural
> and tourist attractions of New York City.
> Therefore, it is only fitting that the southwest corner of
> West 54th Street and Broadway, the corner on which John J.
> Fitz Gerald resided from 1934 to 1963, be designated "Big
> Apple Corner".
> According to PBS's Broadway: The American Musical miniseries,
> Walter Winchell used the term "Big Apple" to refer to the New
> York cultural scene, especially Harlem and Broadway, helping
> to spread the use of this nickname.
> A documented earlier use comes from the 1909 book The
> Wayfarer in New York by Edward S. Martin. He wrote (regarding
> New York) that the rest of the United States "inclines to
> think the big apple gets a disproportionate share of the
> national sap."[1] Etymologists have been unable to trace any
> influence that this use had on the nickname's popularity.
> Swing Musician Harry Gibson remembers in his autobiography
> that the phrase was used in the 1940's specifically in regard
> to Swing Street, which was a nickname for 52nd Street west of
> Broadway. If this is true, then Giuliani, in the above
> dedication ceremony, missed it by two blocks.
> [edit]References
> ^ Mayor, Bruni. "Big Apple in 1909." New York Times (1990):
> [edit]External links
> Why Is New York City Called the Big Apple?
> Giuliani creates Big Apple Corner from the February 1997
> Archives of the Mayor's Press Office The Big Apple Big Apple
> Timeline from amateur etymologist Barry Popik Straight Dope
> article about the subject, with follow-on FAQ on the subject
> from the New York Public Library website Q&A including the
> subject from the New-York Historical Society website The link
> between the Banda Islands and the Big Apple (Indonesia
> Destinations) August 31, 2006
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