"will have" = "undoubtedly did"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM
Fri Sep 15 21:58:53 UTC 2006


Yes, but OED traces that only to 1909. The similar but hardly identical "would be" is lumped with it under 32.b and pegged at 1857:

  "'One..was quite the pet nursling of the school.’ This last would be Emily".

  JL

Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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My memory is somewhat uncertain, but wasn't it once upon a time the
fashion for academics writing historically to write: "... Lampito ...
_would have_ worn 'Doric' garments ...," in cases like this?

-Wilson

On 9/15/06, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> OK, when did the Brits start doing this ? Ex.:
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> 2002 Alan H. Sommerstein _Lysistrata and Other Plays_ (N.Y.: Penguin, 2002) xxxv:
> In _Lysisitrata_, Lampito and her Pelopponesian companions will have worn 'Doric' garments, which were considerably more revealing.
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> It seems to be a development of OED 32.b mingled with 15.d and strikes me as being quite recent - as well as being very frequent.
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> JL
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