fag out
James Harbeck
jharbeck at SYMPATICO.CA
Sun Apr 8 16:29:48 UTC 2007
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>Poster: "Arnold M. Zwicky" <zwicky at CSLI.STANFORD.EDU>
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>On Apr 7, 2007, at 9:03 PM, James Harbeck wrote:
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>>> so this is bleached "fag" (parallel to bleached "gay"), a slur that
>>> has lost its specificity -- it's not about sexuality -- but has
>>> preserved the component of derogation. ("brokeback" went down this
>>> road in a matter of weeks or months.) packer was derogating rose,
>>> but in the friendly, even affectionate, fashion of buddy-buddy
>>> insults, which often turn on imputations of insufficient masculinity.
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>> I find this a curious statement, as it seems to assume that the
>> meaning "homosexual" for "fag" is prior, when in fact the "work to
>> exhaustion" meaning is prior.
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>you misunderstand. all i was saying was that the noun "fag"
>'homosexual' is prior to (and the source of) the generic slur "fag"
>'worthless, weak, etc. person'. that's a semantic development of a
>very routine sort.
No argument on that. I plead quick reading after a late evening of
song and beverage.
Ciao,
James Harbeck.
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