[hw-] v. [w]

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Wed Aug 1 00:26:49 UTC 2007


Sure haven't. I know "Taras Bulba" primarily as a famous Cossack or
some such, about whom someone wrote one of those books that everyone
has heard of, but that only professors of literature and the author(s)
of a "Cliff's Notes" title have actually read.

-Wilson

On 7/31/07, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Ever see the Yul Brynner version?  Spectacularly filmed on the Argentine pampas with a few good sequences, but a predictable dilution of Gogol's story.
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> Compare the endings for extra credit.
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> JL
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> Yeah, me too, though I was probably older then than you are now. I
> used to wonder how many little kids had ever heard of Taras Bulba and
> thence would be able to get the pun.
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> -Wilson
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> On 7/30/07, Scot LaFaive  wrote:
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> > >Now, who was Taurus Bulba?
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_Bulba
> > I used to watch that show when I was younger.
> >
> > Scot
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> >
> > >From: Wilson Gray
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> > >To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > >Subject: Re: [hw-] v. [w]
> > >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:01:55 -0400
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> > >Poster:       Wilson Gray
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> > >Yes, it was a repeat. Had I any idea how closely TV cartoons are
> > >followed by the ADS-L family, I wouldn't have bothered to post.
> > >
> > >Now, who was Taurus Bulba?
> > >
> > >-Wilson
> > >
> > >On 7/30/07, Benjamin Zimmer  wrote:
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> > > > Quoting Wilson Gray :
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> > > > > Tonight, on a TV cartoon show, "Family Man," I think that it was, the
> > > > > characters kicked around the [hw-] v. lw] pronunciations, with one of
> > > > > the [hw-]-speaking characters jokingly noting that, e.g. [wip] in
> > > > > place of [hwip] sounded "wheird" [hwird].
> > > > >
> > > > > [wip] in place of [hwip] doesn't sound "wheird," but it does sound
> > > > > weird. Well not really, though I'm a [hw-] speaker.
> > > >
> > > > That's "Family Guy"... it must've been a repeat of an episode from last
> > > > December. See Mark Liberman's post on Language Log:
> > > >
> > > > http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/003988.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --Ben Zimmer
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