" Olive, the other reindeer"; was Re: "Trolling" for "Trawling": An Eggcorn?
Wilson Gray
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Thu Aug 2 21:36:42 UTC 2007
Is "Olive, the other reindeer" a mishearing of "Oh, how the other
reindeer"? It's the only thing that I can think of that comes close to
making sense. Even so, I get the nonsensical "Oh [laiv] the other
reindeer"' more easily than "Olive."
-Wilson
On 8/2/07, Beverly Flanigan <flanigan at ohio.edu> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: " Olive, the other reindeer"; was Re: "Trolling" for
> "Trawling": An Eggcorn?
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> I have a cartoon from either Dennis the Menace or Family Circus that uses
> this line; I use it in class every year. But whether it's original or not
> I don't know; both cartoons use a lot of word play, so maybe the
> cartoonists either made them up or drew from their own family lives. I
> mentioned this years ago here, so it may be documented more fully in the
> archives.
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> At 04:24 PM 8/2/2007, you wrote:
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> >Poster: "Cohen, Gerald Leonard" <gcohen at UMR.EDU>
> >Subject: Re: " Olive, the other reindeer"; was Re: "Trolling" for
> > "Trawling": An Eggcorn?
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> >Was "Olive, the other reindeer" actually (mis)understood this way by a =
> >child (as, e.g. "Pontius Pilot" or "Gladly, the cross-eyed bear") or was =
> >this consturction with Olive humorously invented by an adult?
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> >Gerald Cohen
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> >From: American Dialect Society on behalf of Arnold M. Zwicky, Thu =
> >8/2/2007 10:26 AM
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> >On Aug 1, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Lary Horn wrote:
> >
> > > Well, we've established that there is such a verb as "troll", with
> > > precisely the appropriate meaning, but its currency is severely
> > > limited. Because of this, I wonder if there be young lads and lasses
> > > scattered about who have innovated an eggcornish reading of this
> > > line, i.e.
> > >
> > > Troll, the ancient Yuletide carol
> > >
> > > --alongside its companion,
> > >
> > > Gladly, the cross-eyed bear
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> >now added to the posting, along with "Olive, the other reindeer".
> >
> >arnold
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