" Olive, the other reindeer"; was Re: "Trolling" for "Trawling": An Eggcorn?

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Dennis,
Whilst thou art mindful of "preserv[ing] such treasures of the tongue" as that which distinguisheth cot & caught, why neglect "lie" versus "lay"?

Or DID you really mean that those shepherds were laying their sheep?
Yr friend,
Coco
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From: Dennis Preston <preston at MSU.EDU>

Date:         Thu, 2 Aug 2007 19:32:14
To:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Subject:      Re: [ADS-L] " Olive,
              the other reindeer"; was Re: "Trolling" for "Trawling": An
              Eggcorn?


Once years ago I stood in front of  a used car lot in Calgary
wondering why Otto's Auto's struck me as mildly funny; then I
realized that for almost ahl Canadians they are homophones. (And
nearly everybody west of the Mississippi, nearly everybody in New
England, and a passle of folk in a band through the middle of the US.)

dInIs, who preserves such treasures of the tongue, by virtue of age and region


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>Attack of the "awe" droppers.  They substitute the sound "ah" for "awe"
>wherever it occurs, and thus "all of" becomes "ah luv" (Olive).  They must
>be stopped.
>
>Tom Zurinskas, USA - CT20, TN3, NJ33, FL5+
>See truespel.com - and the 4  truespel books plus "Occasional Poems" at
>authorhouse.com.
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>>From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at YAHOO.COM>
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>>Subject: Re: " Olive,              the other reindeer"; was Re: "Trolling"
>>for "Trawling": An              Eggcorn?
>>Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 15:05:05 -0700
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>>"Trolling"
>>                for "Trawling": An              Eggcorn?
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>>This has got to be a joke, not a trfue misunderstanding, as the relevant
>>lines are,
>>
>>    "All of the other reindeer,
>>    Used to laugh and call him names.
>>    THEY wouldn't let poor Rudolph
>>    Play in any reindeer games."
>>
>>    Even if your own name is Olive, and all your female relatives are named
>>Olive, and your favorite character is Olive Oyl, you will understand "all
>>of" as  meaning "all of," at least if your attention span is long enough to
>>get to the operative pronoun.
>>
>>    Though you might pretend otherwise.
>>
>>    JL
>>Charles Doyle <cdoyle at UGA.EDU> wrote:
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>>"Trawling": An Eggcorn?
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>>Wilson, it's "All of the other reindeer," mumbled by those sad folks bereft
>>of the "open o."
>>
>>--Charlie
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>>  >Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 17:36:42 -0400
>>  >From: Wilson Gray
>>
>>  >
>>  >Is "Olive, the other reindeer" a mishearing of "Oh, how the other
>>reindeer"? It's the only thing that I can think of that comes close to
>>making sense. Even so, I get the nonsensical "Oh [laiv] the other
>>reindeer"' more easily than "Olive."
>>  >
>>  >-Wilson
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