" Olive, the other reindeer"

[Dennis R. Preston]

I also do not have r-deletion, but I got this one immediately (in the
12th century when I first heard it). Maybe I had a more flexible ear
when I was a Ute.

dInIs

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>Try this one, dInIs. It's one of those old title-author jokes (it
>doesn't work at all in my dialect; I can't remember how long it took
>me to "get it"):
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>_School Lunches_, by Maj. Sick.
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>--Charlie
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>>Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 11:45:32 -0400
>>From: "Dennis R. Preston" <preston at MSU.EDU>
>>Subject: Re: " Olive, the other reindeer"
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>>James,
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>>Why are you surprised? Some of us are just very serious persons. (It
>>may also be the case that "when my pragmatic organizer took over" the
>>lag was very short indeed.)
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>>For some reason, I got the "holly" and "Charlie" rhyme, instantly but
>>I attribute that to the "Boston" priming.
>>
>>I actually don't know of many cross-phonemic (timed) comprehension
>>tests, although I have conducted a number of cross-phonemic
>>comprehension tests within changing dialectal frameworks and find it
>>odd that speakers of changing dialects are not always that much
>>better at understanding the new forms than others. For example, when
>>young persons from the Detroit area are played samples of words like
>>"bet" with increasingly lower or backer positions (forms they would
>>use themselves), they very often misunderstand the words to be "bat"
>>or "bet," respectively. It's almost as if their producers are out in
>>front of their perceivers.
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>>Weird.
>>
>>dInIs
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Dennis R. Preston
University Distinguished Professor
Department of English
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Michigan State University
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