" Olive, the other reindeer"
Dennis Preston
preston at MSU.EDU
Fri Aug 3 18:50:39 UTC 2007
arnold,
My dubitation was about Charlie's (sef-report) of NEVER saying [j@];
I'm still very dubititious. (In your beFore and AFter examples, I
don't think I;'d do a [@].)
dInIs
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>On Aug 3, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Dennis Preston wrote:
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>> Betcha don't.
>>
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>>> I do [ju] for "you," stressed and unstressed!
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>if charlie's claiming he *always* says [ju], dInIs's dubiety seems
>justified. but if dInIs is claiming charlie *never* says [ju]
>(always [j@] instead), i'm dubious indeed. there are plenty of (non-
>contrastive) contexts where [ju] is normal (though [j@] is possible):
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> Satisfied with yourself, aren't you?
> I left beFORE you, not AFter you.
> You dirty dog!
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> etc.
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>arnold
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