Want I should?

[Beverly Flanigan]

I suspect Michael didn't mean to imply that German-heritage speakers only
in Appalachia used the construction, nor that it might not have Yiddish
origins in other regions--only that _when_ it's used in Appalachia, it
might be because of German migration into the area.  The German requires an
embedded 'that' clause, rather than the English infinitive: Willst du dass
ich soll .... (or close).  Chris?

Beverly

At 10:30 AM 8/13/2007, you wrote:
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>Oh yeah, and the only form I've heard it in is "You want I should..." in a
>question.
>
>Scot
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> >So it's considered Appalachian? Interesting.
> >Another interesting tid bit is that the only times I've ever heard it have
> >been on TV by various characters; I heard it on Medium the other day and I
> >recall someone on Leave It To Beaver saying it. Could it be both writers
> >were Appalachian? I would guess it is as localized as it might once have
> >been.
> >BTW, I see from the internets that a lot of people associate this with
> >Yiddish.
> >
> >Scot
> >
> >
> > >From: Montgomery Michael <ullans at YAHOO.COM>
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> > >The excerpt below is from my _Dictionary of Smoky
> > >Mountain English_ (Univ. of Tennessee Press, 2004).  A
> > >Yiddish source is out of the question, but a German
> > >one is much more tantalizing.  Quite a few more people
> > >settled in southern Appalachia whose own language or
> > >ancestral language was German than is usually
> > >recognized.
> > >
> > >Michael
> > >
> > >want verb
> > >   1 with ellipsis of following that, with a dependent
> > >clause as object of the verb.
> > >   1928 Mathes (in 1952 Mathes Tall Tales 43) Child, I
> > >want ye should think about it all yer days!  1931
> > >Goodrich Mt Homespun 49 They want you should use the
> > >hickory on some of them rough boys.  ibid. 54 Maw
> > >wants you should go with her tomorrow to her aunts' in
> > >Tennessy.  1975 Chalmers Better 59 Pink's wife's been
> > >took bad, and Doc wants you should come and he'p him.
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Scot LaFaive <spiderrmonkey at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> > > > I'm curious where or in what group "want I should"
> > > > is spoken and from, as in
> > > > "You want I should come over?" I found the link
> > > > below that says it's from
> > > > Yiddish. (BTW, is this "Ben" on the ads-list?)
> > > >
> > > >
> > >http://positiveanymore.blogspot.com/2006/03/you-want-i-should-grow-bear
> d.html
> > > >
> > > > Scot
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