Nobel Prize for Archaeological Grammar

[Jonathan Lighter]

OED suggests that "dived" is far older than "dove."

  OTOH, "to I and _" has become the spoken norm in my experience as well.  TV journalists seem never to use anything else. Never.

  Most annoying.

  JL

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I don't get it. OK, scuba-dived sounds kind of weird, but so does
scuba-dove. I think most folks would say "I went scuba diving" and sidestep
the issue. With or without the scuba, though, dived and dove are both
perfectly respectable as past tense for dive. Am I missing something? As for
"...sent it to I and my brother" I don't think I know anyone (any native
speakers, that is) who would say that. Maybe I don't know the right people?
DAD


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Subject: Nobel Prize for Archaeological Grammar

Heard today on WOR710, 0505, by Shelley Strickler:
dived
for "dove":
"I scuba-dived in Cancun."
I wonder if I shall ever again hear "me" instead of "I" in contexts like,
"He sent it to I and my brother" (let alone the inherent rudeness of
mentioning oneself before another or others, clearly a relic in the annals
of politeness).
I can tolerate anything as a professional linguist; but as a professional
writer who tries to cleave to an elevated style, I abhor such linguistic
miscegenations.
L. Urdang

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